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Raj (System Engineer)     12 May 2014

Previous employer is not verifying experience letter

Hi,

I was working in Igate Noida and left the organization on Sept 30, 2011. I resigned on 30th Sept 2011 and discussed about notice period to my manager, I told him, I am ready to serve one month notice and 2 month notice buyout, but he didn't agree on that so I didn't serve notice period which was 90 days and left the company.

As per company policy, "Notice Period: We hope your association with us will be a long one. However, either party may terminate this association by giving 90 days notice or on payment of salary in lieu of the same at the discretion of the Company."

Now my current company required my experience letter from Igate, so I contacted Igate HR Team Bangalore. They sent me FnF statement and asked about did I paid or not. I told them, I am ready to pay the FnF amount in lieu of 90 days notice period and I paid the amount and got the experience letter. I submitted the experience letter to my current company  which I received from Igate.

But now  Igate BGV team is not validating the letter, they are saying as you were unauthorised absconding from service so we will not validate the document.


Kindly suggest, what I should do now as I tried to contact Igate HR and BGV team but still  they are saying we will not verify experience letter.

 

Rgds,

Raj



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Kumar Doab (FIN)     12 May 2014

Are all communications that you have posted with HR, so called BGV team of past employer: VERBAL?

DID YOU RECORD THESE (AUDIO/VISUAL)?

Do you have proof of payment made by you to get the experience certificate?

NO payment is required to be made to get Service Certificate; it has to be supplied by employer mandatorily and without any cost to employee!

 

What is this establishment; Commercial, Industrial, Small Enterprise?


The company might have displayed its registration certificate near entrance and you can find out from the certificate easily!

YOU were located in which state?

Currently you are located in which state and does this company have an office at your current location?

The redg. office of the company is in which state?

 

 

What is its line of business e.g; IT/ITeS, Banking, Insurance, publishing, engineering etc?

 

What was your designation and nature of duties and has the company explained the duties/KRA’s in job advertisement, interview, offer letter, appointment letter or later in circulars etc and do you have copies?

 

How many employees are employed in it?

 

Are you a member of any employee’s union, trade union?


The above information shall help, hence post it.

 

 

Raj (System Engineer)     12 May 2014

Thanks for replying my query. Please find the details asked by you.

Are all communications that you have posted with HR, so called BGV team of past employer: I have all mail trail for the same with HR team in written.

DID YOU RECORD THESE (AUDIO/VISUAL)? yes I have all record in audio.

Do you have proof of payment made by you to get the experience certificate? Yes, in mail trail as well as through bank payment details also

NO payment is required to be made to get Service Certificate; it has to be supplied by employer mandatorily and without any cost to employee!

 

What is this establishment; Commercial, Industrial, Small Enterprise?

It is IT service company.

The company might have displayed its registration certificate near entrance and you can find out from the certificate easily!

YOU were located in which state? I worked in Delhi at client location and company is located in Noida UP, but earlier registered office was also in Delhi.

Currently you are located in which state and does this company have an office at your current location? Currently I am in Bangalore and yes there office is in Bangalore.

The redg. office of the company is in which state? Registered office is in Pune, Maharashtra, Corporate office is in Bangalore

 

 

What is its line of business e.g; IT/ITeS, Banking, Insurance, publishing, engineering etc? IT/ITES

 

What was your designation and nature of duties and has the company explained the duties/KRA’s in job advertisement, interview, offer letter, appointment letter or later in circulars etc and do you have copies?

I was Associate System Engineer, and I have all the documents in hard copy as well as in soft copy which i received from company.

 

How many employees are employed in it? 30000 employees

 

Are you a member of any employee’s union, trade union?     No


The above information shall help, hence post it.

 

Please let me know, can I fill the case from Delhi or I have to file the case from Bangalore.

Many Thanks,

Raj

Kumar Doab (FIN)     12 May 2014

>>> I appreciate that you have done needful to collect record including audio files. Keep the memory card safely.

 

 

I do not appreciate that despite the need, reason, and extra ordinary efforts of employees in your trade and willingness of  Trade Unions to embrace employees from your sector, you are not a member of IT/ITeS employees unions, employees unions , Trade Unions like;

 

 

https://www.itecentre.co.in/
https://ithiworld.wikispaces.com/News+Update
IT/BPO Voice of India | Facebook

UNITES Professionals
www.unitespro.org
https://www.wbitsa.org/
www.itpfindia.org/‎
https://itnitesunion.wordpress.com/author/itnitesunion/


Shiv Mahiti Ani Tantradyan Sena(Shiv IT SENA)
mankar.janardan@gmail.com

________________________________________
https://www.shivsena.org




https://www.amrc.org.hk/node/1088 CBPOP
https://www.freepatentsonline.com/article/Indian-Journal-Industrial-Relations/185430721.html
https://bpo.knowledgehills.com/Directory/BPO-Jobs/CBPOP-Centre-for-BPO-Professionals.aspx



https://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report-shiv-sena-forms-first-union-in-information-technology-sector-1465435



 

--- Trade Unions : INTUC, CITU, AITUC, BMS ..................                                                                                             

 

 

 

Advice all of your fellow colleagues, employees, countrymen to build record in such a manner and also to unite, join unions, and keep access to a competent and experienced labor consultant/service lawyer.

 

This alone is my fee.

 

Hope you agree.

 

    

 

>>> First of all consult a competent and experienced labor consultant/service lawyer with copies of job advt.,job application, interview call letter, selection letter, offer letter, appointment letter, service rules and regulations/HR policy mentioned in appointment letter, standing orders (certified/model) applicable to the establishment, all communications that you have mentioned in your last post, audio conversations arranged in word file etc , in person and give inputs and understand the merits and also any loopholes that you might have left and let your lawyer structure and remove the defects.

 

 

Your lawyer may opine that you shall be covered as ‘Workman’ as in ID Act, as ‘Employee’ as in Delhi/Karnataka/UP Shops and Commercial Establishments Act.

 

The employee can lodge complaint at his last location, location where company has an office, location of Redg. office of the company, location of jurisdictional courts as sated in appointment letter/contract of employment.

 

The enactment Delhi Shops and Commercial Establishments Act  is so employee friendly.

The Regd. Office was at Delhi and might be still be at Delhi and other locations may be BO/RO /ZO etc.

 

It is felt that Delhi has not granted exemption from the provisions of Industrial Employment Standing Orders Act to IT/ITeS companies and all IT/ITeS companies are covered by Shops and Commercial Establishments Act .

 

The notice period as in Delhi Shops and Commercial Establishments Act is 1 month max. and as pert his Act  standing orders do not apply the service conditions shall be as governed       by this Act.

 

Moreover 1 month notice period should be sufficient on all counts for the employer to put his house in order.

 

 

You may go thru: Delhi Shops and Commercial Establishments Act; Sec: 2 (5,7,8,14,30), 4, 8, 19,20,21,30 (a,b),33,34,35 {35(b) (i) in particular}………………………………and likewise the enactment for other states too.

 

 

There are threads to indicate that the Chief Inspector under this Act decided that Notice period stated in this Act shall prevail upon appointment letter e.g;

 

https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/Employer-not-relieving-employee-contt-89308.asp#.UkP5C9KAqWM

 

 

   

>>> The notice period inserted by employer in appointment letter may not necessarily be legally valid.

There are many threads on it that you may find relevant e.g;

https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/Whether-notice-period-has-to-be-given-during-probation-91808.asp#.UwDFP0eBmXU

https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/details.asp?mod_id=85821&offset=1#.Uf4_JNKAqWM

 

The HR and employer ought to know that they can not violate law of the land and enactments applicable to the establishment. Then they have their lawyers/legal ell to advice them. They can’t feign ignorance and ignorance of law is no excuse.

Such HR personnel, employers are not fit to be left to loose around in a civilized society.

Act and remove at least one and rest shall reform to saint like individuals.

 

>>> IT is felt that you have played the game well and you are smart.

 

YOU may succeed to recover the amounts extracted by coercion, threat, intimidation and also take these good for nothing personnel to task and they should validate their relieving letter and in future they may not play the police, court and realize that private policies of the company are not law unto themselves. 

 

You may approach a Labor Consultant/service lawyer and a lawyer handling criminal cases too. 

 


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