What are the ways by which the legal framework can be amended for cl.498a ,desertion beyond 2+ years etc.Can SC impose it on all State HC or individual states can take its own stance
PARTHASARATHI DORAISAMY (Principal Architect) 19 February 2013
What are the ways by which the legal framework can be amended for cl.498a ,desertion beyond 2+ years etc.Can SC impose it on all State HC or individual states can take its own stance
R K........ (Analyst) 22 February 2013
I agree with Mr. Shoone kapoor that the RCR should not be filled.. BUt my point of view is that why to stay with that girl who fas filled false compalints against you.. She may do it later also.. Avoid such girls and start your life from afresh..
Msk-need -nuetral- laws (self) 22 February 2013
Mr RK,
Many think that RCR is a protective measure to avoid 498a punishment, and files. Thats the core topic of discussion of this thread
Shonee Kapoor (Legal Evangelist - TRIPAKSHA) 27 February 2013
Yes,
Many think so, but there is no sound basis for the same.
Shonee sir,
I am a great fan of yours and have been reading all your threads since last 6 months to be compitent to fight 498a, if it comes my way.
But I found myself confused after reading this thread as I still think that RCR is useful (though not always), please correct me.
Whenever a wife leaves a matrimonial home and not willing to come back, after waititng for a certain period husband is left with 2 below legal option (and boh can very well invite 498a so there is no escape) :
(1) Divorce : Filing divorce on cruelty ground (and deserton). Cruelty that has taken place inside 4 walls is difficult to prove and it may take 20 years to get divorce on such vague allegations. And if 498a is filed after divorce then I have observed (by reading various posts) that husband is considered as the one who is running from marriage and thus judges trouble him as there main motive is to save marriage at any cost.
(2) RCR: In a normal husband-wife relation, while filing RCR husband can easily show (though that wont be a strong/useful evidence) that he has taken good care of his wife by supporting medical bills, honeymoon destination, credit card shopping bills, 100s of emails/chats exchanged of good times and his efforts to call her wife back to matrimonial home (like emails, phone call recordings). Now once he files RCR with such supporting evidences then onus of proving him wrong shifts on wife and now she has to prove (beyond reasonable doubt) that he has done cruelty (which is again very difficult to prove). She can definitely claim that *as her husband was cruel so she has left her matrimonial home* but mere allegations (without any supporting grounds) should not be enough to set aside his RCR so most likely husband will win RCR and after some time he can file divorce on desertion ground.
Please correct my understanding.
Disclaimer : :-) Sir, main confused hoon ki kaise divorce loon wife se :-( so divorce/RCR evaluate ker raha hoon :-( she has deserted and not coming back and not responding to MCD requests. I have enough poofs (emails, phone recordings) that I made efforts to call her back and her parents voice recording that I have take good care of her but due to our incompatibility she won't come back :-( No blame game yet. I am also not willing to let her join back as I have made enough genuine efforts to make her realise but she is a typical 21st CENTURY GIRL.
P.S. She has extra-marital affair and happily f*cking around with her boyfriend. Maintance and alimony cannot come my way as she is earning in 7 digits yearly and she will NEVER come back, it is gauranteed.
Shantanu Wavhal (Worker) 04 March 2013
last 3 lines of ur post indicate that, the wife, herself will be in a hurry to get out of this failed marriage.
just wait and watch ... she will agree for MCD
Shonee Kapoor (Legal Evangelist - TRIPAKSHA) 04 March 2013
Fight_with_498a
You may read Point 6 of the post.
Regards,
Shonee Kapoor
ashoksrivastava (scientist) 04 March 2013
Shonee sir I have a small disagreement with a part of your argument no 6 "But, BUt, BUT… and its not a small but, it’s the decree which has been enforced and executed under Order 21 Rule 32 of Civil Procedure Code, 1908. Hence, count the ..." HMA doesn't mention that rcr decree needs to be executed for no cohabitation after 1 year of passing of rcr decree , to be a ground of divorce. there are some apex court and high court judgements where divorce has been granted to decree debtor as well as decree holder on this ground alone.without execution petition being filed.though its true that apex court has finally ruled that though this is a ground for petition to be admitted courts are not bound to mechanically grant divorce because petition is admissible. I would be obliged if you can give me some judgement wherein divorce is not granted on this ground only because execution petition was not filed. I am in real need of such a judgement. regards ASHOK
Shonee Kapoor (Legal Evangelist - TRIPAKSHA) 04 March 2013
I would give you atleast one such judgment later at night or tomorrow. I believe it is a Madras HC judgment.
Regards,
Shonee Kapoor
ashoksrivastava (scientist) 04 March 2013
Shonee sir I am attaching apex court judgement in dharmendra kumar vs ushakumar case where divorce was granted to decree holder without filing of execution petition by her
Supreme Court of India Supreme Court of India Dharmendra Kumar vs Usha Kumar on 19 August, 1977 Equivalent citations: 1977 AIR 2218, 1978 SCR (1) 315 Bench: Gupta, A.C. PETITIONER: DHARMENDRA KUMAR Vs. RESPONDENT: USHA KUMAR DATE OF JUDGMENT19/08/1977 BENCH: GUPTA, A.C. BENCH: GUPTA, A.C. FAZALALI, SYED MURTAZA CITATION: 1977 AIR 2218 1978 SCR (1) 315 1977 SCC (4) 12 CITATOR INFO : R 1984 SC1562 (5) ACT: Hindu Marriage Act 1955-Section 13(1A)(ii).-23(1)(a)-If divorce can be obtained for absence of restitution of conjugal rights after decree for restitution is granted by a person who refuses to have restitution-Whether such a conduct amounts to a wrong within the meaning of sec. 23 (1) (a) of the Act. HEADNOTE: The respondent-wife was granted a decree for restitution of conjugal rights on her application under s. 9 of Hindu Marriage Act, 1955 by Additional Senior Sub-Judge, Delhi, on 27th August 1973. On 28th October 1975, the respondent presented a petition under s. 13(1A) (ii) of the Act in the Court of Additional District Judge, Delhi for dissolution of the marriage by a decree of divorce-stating therein that there bad been no restitution of conjugal rights between the parties after the passing of the decree for restitution of conjugal rights. The appellant-husband, in his written statement admitted that there had been no restitution of conjugal rights, between the parties after the passing of the decree in earlier proceedings, but stated that he made Dharmendra Kumar vs Usha Kumar on 19 August, 1977 Indian Kanoon - https://indiankanoon.org/doc/1248559/ 1 SORRY FILE IS NOT GETTING ATTACHED OR COPIED TOTALLY
Rahul Kapoor (Legal Enthusiast) 05 March 2013
well drafted article....
ashoksrivastava (scientist) 05 March 2013
Ray Raj (IT) 06 March 2013
I don't think there should be any practical reason to go for RCR. As husbands, we have already made a mistake. Same thing repeating again would not be termed as a mistake, it would be blunder. If anyone wants to end his life, then RCR can be an option. Because of all these shortcut ways to get out of 498A trouble, we ourselves look clowns in the Judiciary system, which the other parties take advantage of. We already suffered a lot in terms of money and life and social status................still I can't imagine the need for reconciliation. Take back the same woman in life & try to save maintenance................Huh!!!! height of optimism.
Shonee Kapoor (Legal Evangelist - TRIPAKSHA) 06 March 2013
But you would be amazed people file RCR even when they should have filed divorce on the grounds of Adultery.
Sheel Kumar (Product Manager) 15 March 2013
Well written article sir, where do you poractise.