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Sorry I should have marked the message to Sajid instead of leaving it blank. My first views were for author of this post. Thanks for your subsequent views too.
Coming to your rebuttals on my views kindly read and I self quote from my last post "However I'm not aligned to Shiv Sena's thoughts and not a supporter herein"
1. If u quote HJR temples depiction of Kamasutra and say it is OK bze “liberties” there granted by COI I agree to it. What I disagree is that in a park two un wed couples do a “Kamasutra scene openly” mind the difference here and no one should object to it because they are (1) - Adults (2) They are consenting and (3) It comes under liberties. Now how does that sound for time being leaving aside self edited Wiki and non-authenticated Hindu practices of ages quoting for debate per se in any “society”?
Illustration: MF Hussan case u n we all know why he is banned from this Country? I only ask u now will a Muslim depict Allah into any other form and Arabic country tolerate it in the name of “expressions of an artist / freedom of expression”. Here I am not talking of Taliban countries. They are recent genesis. Flip here, scene two, have u ever seen Jesus depicted into any other form like Draupadi has been, why ? Neither Draupadi is worshipped in
2. In my first reply I also said such hooligans are not justified but it happened why one should pay attention to such acts to further fuel them ! It happened because above 1 and 2 read with 3 went to extremes by both sides, read the evolving history of Valentine protest by Shiv Sena like how it started, first. it started with Chowpatty, Colaba and Juhu bandstand areas where un wed adults started indulging openly in public display of “immoral acts” in the name of “Today is Valentine's Day” mind it, it was not confined to exchange of gifts / love and affection but it went further in several “public places”. Then it became a “public nonsense” across board and so on so forth then these Saniks started showing “hard means” which in my view once again I say is not justified like taking law into once hands. Now I once again say Saniks acts are un -constitutional and agree to all that you say but did anyone file a PIL till date to set the clock straight instead of saying all these comes under "liberties" is my only point here.
3. Kushboo was straight faced and went ahead to set the clock straight in live in where SC rightly said, there is no Law to ban live in. Before Kushboo’s statement lots of adults were indulging into live in which society means neighbors frowned upon bze they have adult daughters and adult sons at home least they also start the same and then huge rakish was created with Kushboo’s statement and ultimately SC said rightly what it has to say, so now it is Art. 141 matter is it not so ? Now probably no one can point anything about live in or need may come down in future to create a specific Law for that. Now my question to you here is was 2 adults having live in not their liberties, yes it is so why society objected to it there was protests but South being South, Shiv Sena style extreme things did not happen much, except at few places by local moral police brigades and media postings / debates of the same but it for the time being has died natural death !.
4. Regarding all your other liberties related protests like Khaps / unsociability / sati/ female feticides / PGD’s, I say I disagree only to “their methods” (killings / out casting / gender selection etc. etc.) but my question here is will you as a individual follow these within your home if something like this happens in day today life and you are asked to make a choice?
Illustration: It is too personal mind it but take it just as a very crude illustration. I don’t know your age nor marital status suppose your adult daughter becomes pregnant without weding by her boyfriend, so, first will you question her or not and second is it not her “liberties” and lastly is there any law for un married pregnancies of a adult lady ! So how a society in general leaving aside culture, traditions blah blah should take such liberties?
5. Both authors as well as your points of view are just too good and “liberties” granted by COI does exists but the mute question here is how far both parties (Valentine couples and Shiv Saniks brigade can be allowed to go) in the name of “liberties”?
Now I have another question for you: Tell me why Art. 142 COI is highly criticized since inception till date and it will be criticized till eternity? Have not all Hon’ble Judges before being appointed read and understood its true spirits ? Why there are several opinions on same matter by different Bench ? Have they do not know Law as you question on liberties which everyone knows but there are different views and usage?
COI has granted certain “liberties” but these quoted things by main Author and you, me and several others will be happening because of “ignorance of same Law” by “commonest person” in poverty ridden country like
Don’t worry at the end I will still say I am with you two and several others on liberties point of view but 100% education is not around in a traditional, cultural blah blah society such as India that is why such questions arise when ……………..
Rgds.
