Do matrimonial laws REALLY FAVOR WOMEN?

Mr. Ashutosh Jayaswal,

Very Commendable job indeed.  Keep it up my friend.

In one of your above posts (extracts from wikipedia), you well extracted the position of woman in India since the pre-vedic period till date.  It is undisputable about what you said.  You explained how it chaned. The next important question comes to "Why" it has changed.  Why the women's position has been changing and what are those factors to be considered for those changes and finally what is the role of the economic, political, cultural  and religious factors that caused the change in the women's status in the society.  I think that the predominant factor is economic factor.  The factor of economics influence the politics, social, cultural and religion.   The economic factor changes not only the status of women as a class but the men also as a class.  The earlier period has been described by you as pre-vedic, vedic, hindu, Muslim and finally english colonial period and independent India and  tried to explain the women's status in those periods.  But, if we classify the earlier period as tribal period (the first stage of human beings), slavery stage, later on half-slavery stage, feudal stage, capitalist stage, advanced capitalist stage and socialist stage and try to find out the women's status in those stages, the relationship between men and women in those stages ( that also varied), we come to understand why women as a class are being degraded, abused and humiliated in the present days.  Various books have been written about the women's status in those periods.

Coming to the laws:  The basic philosophy of all the laws (not just gender laws) is always they are enacted to protect the powers in control and pretend to be protecting the vulenerable sections.  It is the basic nature of law.  To understand this concept, I refer one or two sections of other laws, which are not matrimonial, so that people without prejudice can try to understand.

Section 10 of the Contract Labour (Regulation&Abolition) Act, 1971 prohibits contract labour system in perennial jobs.  In Delhi High Court, all the sweepers and cleaners are on contract basis, which is a perennial job.  All the Government Departments unhesitatingly violate this provision and at present crores of workers are working as contract labour in permanent and perennial job without job security.  The Act projects to protect the rights of contract labour but in fact cannot stop to exploit them.

Next, our parliament passed "suppression of immoral traffic Act".  But every one knows, even in the smallest of small village, one can procure a woman for money. About female foeticide.  Even though it is illegal, not even a single prosecution has happened since passage of the Act.

Hence, laws are for mighty but appear to be for protecting the weaker sections.  This rule is not just for gender or matrimonial laws but for all nature of laws.  This rule is not just for India, it is universally applicable.

I hope, Mr. Jayaswal will continue his investigation and dissiminate the information for the benefit of all.

The pitiable condition and crime against women shows that “either law is not really in favor of women or it is a complete failure" Any sensitive genuine person after going thru’ surveys, news paper reading, research and happening in and around, cannot say that law is really in favor of women.

All the surveys of my above postings are not mine rather is of third party. It is not me rather national and international organization have made above observation/findings. Had these been of mine thing would have been different.

As rightly observed, it is the financial dependence, makes them helpless. Their contribution gets rebutted.

AS RAVAN BEATS MANDODARI

THEREFORE RAM SHOULD BE IN JAIL

AGAINST THE FALSE COMPLAIN OF 498A BY SITA.

WHAT TYPE OF LOGIC/JUSTIFICATION THESE ARE?

WHERE IS  THE 'PRUDENT MAN'?

THAT MEANS - WE HAVE FOUR PRUDENT ANIMALS.

BUT, - I AM IN SEARCH OF A PRUDENT PERSON.

I thought we all will have some REST now but OK I will try again

TWO EYES
 
Do you know the relation between two eyes?

They never see each other....... ... BUT

- They blink together

- They move together

- They cry together

- They see things together

- They sleep together

- They share a very deep bonded relationship

However, when they see a woman, one will blink and another will not.

Moral of the story:

Women can break any kind of relationship!

PS.: It is a compliment not remark BTW.
 

In continuation to the above story, one detective started searching the above two eyes, and found that – it was an eyes of a man.

He started searching again and found surprisingly, another pair of eyes, - of which, both are blinking. The detective started searching the reason and again found surprisingly that a man responsible for it.

Moral of this story:-

Women can break any kind of relationship!

But a man breaks ALL RELATIONSHIP INCLUDING HER IDENTITY.

Dear Dr.

Are you talking about the chameleon?

No Sir,

I am talking about the society undergoing transition where un-educated women having not much knowledge of Laws meant to protect them are one eye and take it as their customs and the urban women being educated and empowered knowing about the same Laws are experimenting through the other eye of the same society thus a society (generic) is sure undergoing great amount of transition so to speak.

It is a good post, wish it would have been posted as two seperate posts one for rural women (Do family law favor rural women) and another for empowered urban women (Do family law favor urban women) just like two eyes always together but one eye sees something else than the other eye which is meant not to be so becuase two eyes make a complete person.

Rgds

I have come across more than 100 cases in and around me, in which either (some of) bride have been killed rather murdered brutally or have committed suicides. And in most of the cases accused are out and have remarried again enjoying their life. Conviction is rare and courtesy goes to our society, Police and legal system. Also I know a person who forced his wife to commit suicide, remarried again and to second wife also, he forced to commit suicide, irony is that in spite of all these he has not spent even an hour in jail forget about conviction, he is a lawyer by profession. Even no case has been lodged against him by fathers’ of the deceased. Most of the husbands like that kind of FILs.  Even some lawyers claim/boast that they can obtain divorce within six months, and will tell all the procedure, condition is that they charges hefty amount, they used to have setting everywhere.

 So how the law is favoring women, and if it is true then why these incidence are happening? Are some men are not misusing the law, and getting out thru’ the loopholes? Are they not be held responsible for making these laws a failure?

 So, what and which kind of harassment u guys are talking about? Is it not u r crying foul? Just see the conviction rate. The ultimate losers used to be a woman.

"The social stigma attached to unmarried women and divorced women are so strong that most parents would rather see their daughter’s dead then to have them get a divorce and return permanently to the parental home". The bride-murderer may also be offered subsequent siblings by the dead girl's family because the siblings are often black marked and difficult to marry off. This alone is evidence of the utter helplessness of these families and their children. “

If some of them charge or abuses that the man is “impotent”, and then it is like red chili, what about the bad/hurting comments being passed on women? What u do is best and what some of them does is worst or not at par with the standards set for them? Do not forget that it their rigorous hardship that we r 1.2 billion today, rather have seen and enjoying life.

Some says that Female infanticide (killing of girl infants) or female foeticide is a different issue, but they have narrowed their thinking, and the fact is abuse of the dowry tradition and matrimonial difficulties have been one of the main reasons for s*x-selective abortions and female infanticides in India.

To some there is a problem that women do not adjust with and entertain all in laws, but why don’t they adjust according to her?

You must be the change you want to see in the world.  Mahatma Gandhi

Mahatma Gandhi -. According to him women should be liberated from the slavery of kitchen only then their true potential could be realized. He said that responsibility of household is important for women but it should not be the only one. In fact she should come forward to share the responsibilities of nation.

“I first learned the concepts of non-violence in my marriage.” Mahatma Gandhi

Laws always supports weaker section, be it bonded labor, SC/STs, and downtrodden etc. It is the humanity which matters more, and these are related with social cause and are a human issue, which cannot be addressed by the laws. It is our attitude, behavior and psyche which need changes. We must change as per the need of society. 

The war must be between good and evil or between right and wrong .But hatred against women is being spread in this forum, trifles and trivial matters are being discussed at length, and exceptions are being over highlighted and discussed. All imaginary, one sided and wrong materials are being posted to malign the image of women of this country.

But truth is otherwise, still Indian women are considered as of high moral values, more virtuous, and loyal etc. Everybody wish to marry an Indian woman.

Even there is a popular saying that “life is heaven with Indian Wife, American Salary, A House in Europe, and Chinese Cuisine”.

It is a one sided story.

no surprise , these are comments of a man who make their living by these means . they are just blind to other side of coin. they cannot see that law machinery is being misused in 95% of cases for satisfying personal ego/ extortion.

@ Ashutosh

Good that you have 100 cases of women in and around you. I am based in Delhi and my work relates to gender biasness in Family Law and neither I am with harassed husbands nor with harassed women victims I am only against the gender biasness in Family Law.


1. I openly invite you to come to Delhi and meet me with signatures and names/ address of these 100 women victims since you say they are known to you and these 100 women are in and around you. I will file PIL on behalf of your these 100 women and let us get them justice I suppose this is what you too might also be looking for them right ?. I don't charge a cent for these work so chill pill.


2. Now, before coming to Delhi just email me respective FIR No's. / city name / district name of these 100 women (I suppose at one point of time some FIR is definitely filed by them or by their family - right) I have access to FIR database kept by PS in various districts of victims of Family Law (both genders) and before you come to Delhi I can tell you how many of these 100 cases are actually even FIRed so the real data of PIL will emerge as well as real datas of your above post will be out and then we will sit and talk and make an PIL and try our best to get them Justice.


3. I will plead as Party in person and since your writings here suggest you know equally well of these gender Laws so you can join me as party in person. We both will not need Harish Salve or Prashant Bhushan so to speak here and let us save money on them bze these 100 women are anyhow sufferers as you say so why even ask money from them for PIL drafting / respondent copies / paper book, we both will pool in our money and let us get atleast these 100 women Justice so that you can atleast say that Family law really favoured 100 women and for rest let us keep it that way that these Laws do not favor them.


Agreed !

Rgds.

reply mr Ashutosh
 

it is an open challenge to you from mr arun.

i have no doubt that - you are lying in this respect  (REG your 100 cases).

now a days it is a fashion to stand in favour of woman.

a few women may be tortured by men, but that does not mean that all shouted women are innocent.

Some facts & picture of dowry abuse, burns, and deaths,. Which some will say it is one sided forged..