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Moren (Manager)     29 February 2012

Is legal notice compulsary for termination of employee under

My friend was in a PSU and was under a Bond. During the Bond validity, he left the service without resigning. The Company sent 3 letters for joining after which they terminated his services.

Now, he wants to obtain his PF from the company which the company says can be settled only after payment of Notice pay & Bond money. He has been told by some other employee that LEGAL notice is mandatory for termination of employees under the Bond so that the Bond amount can be recovered from the employee after termination.

Would like to know the following :

1. IS LEGAL notice (not letter from HR) mandatory for termination of the employee under a Bond.

2. Can he NOW tender his resignation and pay up the Notice pay and Bond to obtain a clean Relieving letter thereafter settle his PF.

 

Please advice.



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Kumar Doab (FIN)     29 February 2012

 

----PF is immune from any attachment.

 

Employer may adjust from other dues e.g. Leave encashment, salary, bonus etc.

-----HR point of View is: "Employer can refuse to sign the claim form i.e. Form 19 & 10C," and employer be prepared to face explanation, and consequences.

 "Provident Fund contribution of employer is not right of employee if he is terminated for wrongful reasons. Employee has no lien in employer’s contribution if he is terminated for disciplinary and wrong reasons."

You may consult your legal cell and labor Law practitioner specially experienced one who can offer you perfect reference of case no and corresponding law that upheld disqualification of employee from receiving employer’s contribution to P, in line with rules/law of the land/judgments/policies of the company.

Please look into the Attachment: Preponderance of Probabilities

“Disciplinary Authority (DA) that is, the Joint Development Commissioner (SISI) & the Chief Vigilance Officer, in his order dated 13.5.1997, seen at Annexure-A2, communicated to the applicant the order of the President of India in exercise of the powers under Rule 9(1) of the CCS (Pension) Rules, 1972 to the effect that 50% of the monthly pension otherwise admissible to the applicant would be withheld on a permanent basis”

 

------Forfeiture of gratuity may be not confused with forfeiture of PF.

Before forfeiture of Gratuity, employer must supply show cause notice to employee and grant opportunity to explain. Forfeiture can be up to the extend of loss caused/proved.

Treatment of Pf administered by EPFO and by Trusts is different is some aspects..

Forfeiture of PF is explained in certain situations, and mere mention of term forfeiture of PF must not be confused with right of employer to forfeit PF.

Please look into the attachment;" Whether PF can be with held"

--------Treatment of Pf administered by EPFO and by Trusts is different is some aspects..

As per Bank of Baroda PF rules (attached)

18. No deduction shall be made, save as by these rules provided, from the amount

standing to the credit of an account in the name of a member unless he is

dismissed for misconduct causing financial loss to the Bank and in such case the

recovery to be made by the Trustees and to be paid by them to the Bank shall not

exceed the amount of such financial loss and shall be made from the contributions

made by the Bank credited to individual account of such member and to interest

(simple or compound) credited in respect of such contributions and accumulations

thereof in accordance with these Rules.

--Before Termination notice of termination should be issued by employer.

--Employee should plead his case well with line management/HR/good offices of the company and strike an amicable settlement and exit happily with acceptance of resignation, relieving letter, FNF settlement, and good reference check in future. This shall be quickest and easiest solutions.

Even if line management/HR are not zealous and vindictive they have to follow the rule book and employee shall need to apply exceptional levels of persuasion, persistence, negotiation, reasoning skills and adopt path of rapprochement and plead mercy.

----If the employee is determined and was subjected to rude, insulting, coercing, threatening conduct, and employee is determined then employee may approach an experienced and competent service lawyer and show all documents and give inputs in person and the lawyer shall be able to comment on the merits of the case and structure and draft the communications to be submitted to the good offices and may be in a position to defend from paying the bond amount.  

Employee should always consult elders in the family, experienced and competent well wishers, trained legal mind before taking such steps. It is better to consult before hand than to repent later.

Valuable advice of learned experts and members is ought, with a request to cite the SC judgments confirming PF can be forfeited. This shall help many who visit the forum.

 

 

 

 


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Kumar Doab (FIN)     29 February 2012

Attached two files.

Kumar Doab (FIN)     29 February 2012

Attached two files.


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Kumar Doab (FIN)     29 February 2012

Can the amount standing to the credit of any member in the Fund be assigned, charged or attached?: The amount standing to the credit of a member in the Fund cannot be assigned, charged or attached under any decree or order of any Court. Similarly, the amount standing to the credit of a member in the Fund at the time of his death is free from any debt or other liability incurred by the member before his death and cannot be attached under any decree or order of any Court. {Section 10}

Moren (Manager)     02 March 2012

Thanks Kumar


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