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Never Give Up (Fighter)     10 February 2013

My wish for 498a suffering husband is to give a good fight and spread message in society that so and so lady has filed case on his husband and his husband does so and so things. So beware of filing false cases and see if amicable separation can be arrived.  At least i am spreading this message in my community.

 

@Sunaina,

 

Once a party is in court, everybody will apply Saam Daam Dand Bhed. Relations ends once police comes into matter of bedroom and family. And one can not be sitting duck stating oh my love dont put me and my family behind bar. One has to fight no other option when war has been declared.

 

You are right in putting across cost part for the war, but  putting a word that war is costly doesnt mean that one allows enemies to rule over. I hope you got my point.


(Guest)

There is a old saying that there are three reasons for all fights which are Jar, JORU and Jameen.....

Everyone(including women) here understand very well 498a is all about women....But anyways exaggrated false allegations are part of 498a and how women will extort money if things are not exaggrated. Its a part of game now......Ppl like me who never took a single paisa/penny is suffering and never ever demanded anything, lost my father in this sh*t and still my lovely is behind my parents property, and thank god u still say there is nothing like innosense.......Puranik kathayen, so called chaar ved and granths are not written for reading them like reading a novel......they are meant to teach and guide the people and ur well said quote that "
there is nothing like innosense" i hope this quote applies to women too ? Am i right or women are innocent and they are always harrased for dowry ? I think u can answer this to urself and then comeback here.............And if really people are suffering , lets try making this law GENDER Neutral, because i have faced this no of times before my marriage when girl's side asks before marriage how much property do u have, how much u earn ? What will u say abt this---> Is this not a dowry demand or a concern of parents for her kiddo girl ?

Society needs to grow up.....Think neutrally, Every gender has heart......so emotions n feelings exists both in men and women.....

BR, Mani


Harsh (Manager)     10 February 2013

@sunaina

i dont understand your argument at all, if it is an argument.

by citing historic woman oppression, you are justifying reckless 498a abuse. you are just exhibiting your foolishness here.

the rest of the world doesnt need any 498a, i doubt if even the other countries in our subcontinent have such laws.

woman may have been oppressed before but it was not always like that and certainly not in all parts of the country or world.  check amongst your own family and relatives, what percent of your woman relatives were oppressed or not treated well? were they not happy with their married life despite whatever restrictions they had? restriction is NOT oppression.

if epics were written by men, why dont you or your other women friends write one more epic? like Ms Ekta Kapoor

is doing on television, her shows are full of double meaning dirty jokes which even I, as  a guy, dont like. all the wardrobe malfunctions happen only with empowered women on the ramp or the screen !

you have well understood that family foundation is deteriorating and it will affect the next generation - but it seems you are fine with it and wish to continue the 498a rampage. 

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yogendra singh (IT Professinal)     10 February 2013

Dear Sunaina,


     I am sure that you will definitely back up those girls also who are filling false abduction/Gangrape cases.Because you are here with a different mindset. examples are

Bhatinda case 2-3 weeks ago and then Rohini case almost 2-3 weeks agao.

 

We all know that hindi saying are very deep message...see below..

'Dhol,Gawar,Shudra ,Pashu aur Nari' ,Ye sab tadan ke adhikari' ye kahawat yuhin nahin bani hai..har cheez ka koi matlab hota hai...

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ANEESH TRIVEDI (ADVOCATE) (Advocate)     10 February 2013

Originally posted by : Never Give Up

You are right in putting across cost part for the war, but  putting a word that war is costly doesnt mean that one allows enemies to rule over. I hope you got my point.

Very well said," as the war begins and definitely the law used by women are like missiles against men if men will not defend then they have to sacrifice their life and enemies will easily rule , it is indirectly a suicide in which men will not die physically but he accept his death mentally , emotionally and socially ."

so now it will be birthrights for men do defend first and aftrer winning just give the right attack or answer ot enemy now so called ex wife , ex love.

for this he has to take out all feeling ,emotions related to wife whcih are just life for him before 498A

Msk-need -nuetral- laws (self)     10 February 2013

@ Sunaina Madam,

I am not reading it with bitterness, in fact your post said "Kali emerges" which is absolutely with filmy mindset wherein woman is projected ( showing kali madha in back ground when woman revolts, wonder prior to those scenes, the same women heroine depicted with two pieces) in such manner. You unknowingly imbibed it and expressed. Neither any woman can become goddess nor all men are asuras of harassing universe. Thats why I protested, saying this kind of filmy mindset is what is problem for few women who act in anger and loose themselves.

But I am with you sharing concerns of tumbling society because of these sections! But your words unknowingly supported 498a. Please re-read your post.

sunaina (house wife)     10 February 2013

Dear Never Give Up- I agree with you no doubt, why I wonder reactions of this order when I just penned my thoughts about underlying reasons and results, it was a healthy thought...nothing personal, we see, various dimensions of thoughts and expressions for a mere thought....now this again brings me to  point how our society is gonna fail .....Hatred anger vengence etc....I was not focused on this case at all, i was only pouring what I sensed....about our family systems/generation...future...There were times when the women cried, now the men suffer, a vicious cycle...thats what I penned down...In anger it has not been noticed-i mentioned-I feel sorry for innocent men....

sunaina (house wife)     10 February 2013

Mani You may feel free to distort it further and further....498a has its meaning and gravity I do support it at the same time feel sorry on those, on which it has been mis-used as this will make men lose respect for women, lose respect for family values, this is a new weapon in the hands of the ladies,(with or without valid reason) they will certainly make lots of errors....why they use it with such vengence has its own story...now again....going down to the roots....there will be another series of gun shots from men perhaps even women, errm and Im in no mood to explain and clarify with each character here...i said what I said...and thats it PERIOD!!!

I have yet not filed 498a on anyone, so I guess I will be weak to debate too strongly on this....

sunaina (house wife)     10 February 2013

My hindi is bad Yogendra -Ji,

I grasped few things, I would like to say, I would want to educate these ladies who file it wrongly, to stop harrassing men in such order, they also have a heart, feelings, dreams, hatred for some other reasons should not pollute reality and they take their anger out on one man, if innocent, I will say one thing here...I have had a brutal marriage, and am remarried, and the respect and love I got from my man(second man) I pray all women get a man like him...but then Taali ek haath se nahi bajti!! Smiles....Im remarried since more than 13 years...so past hatred and pain, did not mean I do not trust a MAN or deny LOVE!!

All the best...

sunaina (house wife)     10 February 2013

Harsh if it is foolish go fight for in Supreme Court or where ever...showing dominance to me will not get you any result will it? Cheers...I dont owe you answers hunnie!!

Msk-need -nuetral- laws (self)     10 February 2013

why i need to distort, i took your own words, i stand by what i observe.

My last word,  last reply to this.

Never Give Up (Fighter)     10 February 2013

Let me make general comment to wind up my part from this thread,

 

Following are factor which are ruining good family life and both spouse if focus on this may be many family disasters can be avoided.

1. Very low tolerance level

2. Adamant nature

3. Intrusion of parents

4. Egoistic nature

5. Lack of Rational thinking

sunaina (house wife)     10 February 2013

Thumbs up to that@Never give Up!! To add my list

Conviction, Faith, Perseverance...

Cheers!!


(Guest)

More than anything its actually

varied expectations of man and woman in a marriage. When their expectations are different and what they got in a marriage is different then the marriage is bound to fail.

Its just that counselling should happen way before the marriage and not after the marriage. Laws are always good because they are made out of some sense but then misuse should be strictly punished.

sunaina (house wife)     11 February 2013

Observation-
Followed below..


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