Title HARIJAN GANDHI is really justified than MAHATMA GANDHI

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Sometimes even without ascertaining the historical facts about a politicianl, we start supporting the politician and raise him to a level of divinity of "Maha Atma" etc. Let us not ignore the facts that various individuals are raised to a level of larger than life for only political gains by some individuals. The best conspiracies in this world rarely get exposed during the period of their execution. I would like to mention the follwing facts about Mr. M. K. Gandhi and views of Dr. Ambedkar about him.

Due to Dr. Ambedkar's prominence and popular support amongst the untouchable community, he was invited to attend the Second Round Table Conference in London in 1932. Gandhi fiercely opposed separate electorate for untouchables, though he accepted separate electorate for all other minority groups such as Muslims and Sikhs When the British agreed with Ambedkar and announced the awarding of separate electorates, Gandhi began a fast-unto-death while imprisoned in the Yerwada Central Jail of Pune in 1932 against the separate electorate for untouchables only. Fearing a communal reprisal and killings of untouchables in the event of Gandhi's death, Dr. Ambedkar agreed under massive coercion from the supporters of Gandhi . This agreement, which saw Gandhi end his fast, while dropping the demand for separate electorates that was promised through the British Communal Award prior to Ambedkar's meeting with Gandhi. Dr. Ambedkar was to later criticise this fast of Gandhi as a gimmick to deny political rights to the untouchables and increase the coercion he had faced to give up the demand for separate electorates.

Dr. Ambedkar had condemned Mr. M. K. Gandhi's support for the caste system and perpetuating untouchability. Dr.Ambedkar warned people,"Don’t call Gandhi a saint. He is a seasoned politician. When everything else fails, Gandhi will resort to intrigue.” "Don’t fall under Gandhi’s spell, he’s not God... Mahatmas have come and Mahatmas have gone but untouchables have remained untouchables.”

In his book What Congress and Gandhi Have Done to the Untouchables, Dr. Ambedkar intensified his attacks on Gandhi and the Congress, hypocrisy.

“With the Hindus who have been blind devotees of Mr. Gandhi this study, although it is the first of its kind, will not find favour: indeed it is sure to provoke their wrath. How can it be otherwise when the conclusion arrived at is " Beware of Mr. Gandhi" ? Looking at it from a wider point of view, there is no reason for the Hindus to be enraged about it. The Untouchables are not the only community in India which thinks of Mr. Gandhi in these terms. The same view of Mr. Gandhi is entertained by the Muslims, the Sikhs and the Indian Christians. As a matter of fact, the Hindus should cogitate over the question and ask: why no community trusts Mr. Gandhi although he has been saying that he is the friend of the Muslims, Sikhs and the Scheduled Castes and what is the reason for this distrust ? In my judgment, there cannot be a greater tragedy for a leader to be distrusted by everybody as Mr. Gandhi is today.”

Reference: https://www.ambedkar.org/ambcd/41A.What Congress and Gandhi Preface.htm#p01

In Gujrat, the land of Mr. M. K. Gandhi, schools still practice untouchability: https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_when-schools-teach-untouchability_1152412

" Harijan aur mahatma me conflict kaha hai ?"

-   We all are harijan including Gandhji.

There is no conflict between Harijon Gandhi And Mahatma Gandhi.

When Dr Ambedkar  was out from the close circle of Gandhji, he accept Jagjiban ram in his close circle to fulfil the place of Dr Ambedkar.

This question raised from that time by the supporters of Ambedkar ji. 

If 'Dalit"s are Harijon, then  what  are the others  ? 

Therefore the question 'Mahatma Gandhi vs Harijon Gandhi' is a battle between Ambedkar-badi vs Jagjiban-badi. Here also 'Dalit' of Maharashtra Vs Bihar. Raj was not born at that time.

Neheru played the vital role in this episode, under the curtain, and keeping Gandhi ji in fore front.

It was, the then politics, of neheru ji, and nothing else.

It is known to us that Neheru ji was out of control of Gandhji on that time. Neheru did the misdeeds but Gandhji was unable to control.

Another two contradictory episodes were

(1) Neheru Vs Subhas Chandra bose - which was ended by 'Subhas out from congress'

(2) Neheru vs Zinnah, - which was ended by the division of our mother land.

Still then we comple to carry this family as a head of our present politics. Still they using the title of Gandhiji and keeping him in front of them by one or other way.

Actually, it is - Munni Badnam hui darling tere liye.

Lokhraj, where did I say that the people who sow seeds of thinking should /would not eat eatables or drink drinkables ?

Lokhraj, pehle apni budhi par jor diya kar ki kya kahna hai or kya nahin.

Vah re bhudhdhi ke thekedaar !

Kisi ne kaha - Taaleem ne mujhe nikamma kar diya, varana mai bhi aadmi tha kaam kaa.

Padh likh ke tum logo ne apne dimag me gobar bhar liya hai. usi ke safayee ke liye mujhe avtaar lena pada.

Ram Sewak,mere assertions prove nothing.U say there is Gobar in my Dimag.

Grt. Prove this and I would be out.

Rather I can prove that u are a fool because U are writing here personal, irritating comments without having a single iota of substance.

U do not have anything worth while to say ,hence U are using an attitude of street Quarreller.

Not only Ur views are cheap but Ur language is also cheap,third class.

Mere tere me ek  aur fark hai - Mai anti virus hu aur tu virus hai.

Mujhe yaha  tere jaise logo ki safaayee ke liye instal kiya gaya hai. Mujhe na score banaana hai, na kisi ki vavahi leni hai.

Sudhar ja aur deshdrohi tatha samajdrohi daleelo ko unhi dushmano ko lauta de jinhone tere dimaag me ye gandi baaten bhari hai .

Ram Sewak, I do not feel that u understand anything.

So here again I am trying to make things clearer to U,though I feel that this attempt too would be fruitless because U are person of zero understanding.

Mere assertions do not mean anything,I am virus/U are antivirus---this is Ur statement right........prove a single word and I would be out.

People like U not only should be out of this site but out of this planet, U are attacking members here personally,i nstead of sharing or learning, U are here just to irritate members by your filthy language ,no other purpose.

Tu meri hi baat duhraa raha hai idiot.

Mai to pahle hi kah chuka hu ki mera sirf ek hi purpose hai tere jaise desh drohi aur sanskriti drohi logo ko is site se aur Hindustaan se baahar khadednaa !!!

Bhaag ja  Hindustaan se agar Hindustaani culture se nafrat hai tujhe !!!

Alakh Niranjan !!!

Ram Sewak, U are so foolish that u do not understand anything.

U said that I am virus and u are anti-virus----I challenged U to prove Ur statement--now tell me where did I repeat ur saying.

But u have shut ur brain so how could u understand anything?

I also challenge U to prove that whatsoever I have ever said is not in the interest of our fellow brothers and sisters.

Dear Radhey,

Don't mind dear, this is the culture of MAHATMAs and this is the reason these people are going to be minority very fast so "Jaise doobne wala aur jor se fadfadaata hai haath pair maarta hai aur paas aane waale ko bhi le doobne ki koshish karta hai" this is the reason behind their behaviour.  They are enemies of themselves and nothing harm for any other.

You please enjoy your citizen rights under democratic constitution of our democratic India and left the worries of law & order on our Democratic government. ATS is on the job and catching these anti-national, anti-social and anti-humanity elements.  They have no future and will be shot dead anytime like mad dogs.

I do not find the subject of this topic to be discussed and this is below the standard and status of this site.

Dear Sir ,

                      Don't waist your energy . i agreee with sri Raj Kumar Ji.

It is very important to identify the root cause of anti-equality illness in the human society.  In simple words, it is very important to identify the virus and remove them to keep running the computer system clean & well.  Some virus are launched very smartly which cannot be caught easily and so cannot be removed properly.  Some virus are like "The thief in the uniform of Policeman" and they are more danger.

For implementation of our secular democratic constitution it is the need of time to develop a system to identify the anti-secular, anti-social, anti-democratic virus in our Indian society and there should be no sympathy to remove them out of the land to have the rule of the law of the land.  

It is most important which needs to be kept on top priority ever.

Dear Democratic Indian, is that song link is deleted which you have posted;

Kishor Kumar's "Chingari koi bhadke.."

Please re-post the same..

No second Kishor Kumar, Mohd. Rafi, Mukesh, or Manna De will come again.. They were God gifted singers.  

Here it is for everyone to listen the song: https://www.radioreloaded.com/download.asp?tid=5861&tag=Chingari%20Koi%20Bhadke

Your thread https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/WHO-IS-CORRUPT-Why-naxalism-terrism-unemployment-poverty--28222.asp?1=1&offset=3 is very useful as it is giving rise to many questions/answers in my mind.