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Dr.V.N.Tripathi's answers in favour of RAMRAJ v/s Democracy

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25 February 2011, 22:04

Dr. V.N. Tripathi

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Now the issue- "Concept of Ramrajya and Indian Democracy" is being taken up as permanent topic for debates and symposiams among lawyers, professors and university students in Allahabad, Varanasi, Lucknow, Gorakhpur and Delhi etc.

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Well Dr. Tripathi. Myself and my muslim and christian friends wants to know more about RAMRAJ. I think you will be happy in making us worthy of knowledge about your fothcoming RAMRAJ. So, we will submit here our questions and doubts.

So, for today, the followings 02 questions;

1. Who will be the Prime Minister - Any Surwanshi Kshatriya or any Brahman from the family of Goswami Tulsidas or any other?

2. Whether Muslims and Christians and others will also be taken in the cabinet of Mnisters or Only Hindus?

We will ask 02 qestions everyday so that people can note the information properly.

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Arup (UNEMPLOYED) 26 February 2011

nilesh ji,

please do not take the campaign for ramraj so seriously.

today ramraj means an ideal democracy not bramhin or chatriya dominated kingdom. it is named as ramraj but everyone of the society is member of it. it is an ideal democracy, whatever be the name.

please put your idea about the ideal democracy.

Sarvesh Kumar Sharma Advocate (Advocacy) 26 February 2011

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Swami Sadashiva Brahmendra Sar (Nil) 26 February 2011

Dear Nileshji,

kindly Do not see from the perspective of versus. Concept of Ramrajya is free from conflicts.

It is not my concept, it is an ideal concept flowing since time immemorial in Indian culture. Further it is not a concept fevouring domination of any caste, religion etc over others. It a concept of perfect equality , harmony and fraternity etc. - Greater and more effective rights and obligations than those prevailing in present political system .

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When the RAMRAJ will be impleented;

1. Will, the present NATIONAL FLAG (TIRANGA), be replaced by BHAGWA-DHWAJ?

and

2. Will, the present NATIONAL EMBLEM (4 LIONS OF ASHOK STAMBH), be replaced by SUN-MARKA SYMBOL OF SURAVANSH or SOMETHING OTHER?

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Originally posted by :Arup
"	nilesh ji, please do not take the campaign for ramraj so seriously. today ramraj means an ideal democracy not bramhin or chatriya dominated kingdom. it is named as ramraj but everyone of the society is member of it. it is an ideal democracy, whatever be the name. please put your idea about the ideal democracy.	"

The Government of India had submitted an affidevit in SC in reply to the case of so called RAMSETU that THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF BIRTH OF ANY RAM AND IT IS A "MYTH" NOT THE "TRUTH". It means all that an story by an Author.

So, as per this story, WHETHER YOU MEAN TO SAY THAT DURING THAT DASHRATH-RAJ AND FURTHER DURING RAMRAJ IT WAS "AN IDEAL DEMOCRACY"?

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Dear Arup ji,

So, How the "RAMRAJ" was "AN IDEAL DEMOCRACY"? And so WHY the same should be consIdered as "AN IDEAL DEMOCRACY"?

Please enlighten us.

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In support of Indian Democracy, the following thread may please be included in this discussion;

https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/BUDDHISM-is-The-National-Religion-of-Union-Of-India-32274.asp

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Reference from;

https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/Re-Re-Re-Our-constitution-is-Questionable-25111.asp

15 October 2010, 12:00

Parthasarathi Loganathan

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Our Constitutional Law has been a Bible, Quran ,Granth Saheb and Bagavath Gita to lay foundation of many Enactments in our Independent India. The basic tenets that govern the spirit and dictum of the Rule of Law have been directly or indirectly incorporated many other countries who believed in the Democratic Values. In fact, Constitutional Law in its simplest form should be made a compulsory subject in our Education System.

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Swami Sadashiva Brahmendra Sar (Nil) 01 March 2011

Many things may be common in all. But a person can not be deemed to have a bond with some other merely on the basis that both of them use some common words. Though not asked directly, but I feel it necessary to clarify that I have no bond with any political group or religious movement . But it is unpleasant for me if someone spreads hatreds in the society in the name of reform or revolution. Such type of people are real enemy of humanity. They don't know even their own religion which they are propagating .

Swami Sadashiva Brahmendra Sar (Nil) 01 March 2011

No religion would approve disrespect for other religions. Spreading hatreds can never be a religion , rather it may be behaviour of ignorant followers who need to learn the meaning of religion, much less the basics of their own religion.

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Some concerned quotes here;

https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/Ramdeo-Baba-playing-defensive-be-offensive-baba--32698.asp

Originally posted by :Ram Samudre-DRF [NSSD-UOI]
"	Arup ji, Ramdeo Baba is too intelligent. He knows that he cannot succeed in politics till when he is in Bhagwa-Chola and if he come out of Bagwa-Chola for politics than he will become ZERO and whatever alinement of followers he made yet that will go puncture. He is not confidentsince he knows that when Jansangh coverted BJP not succeeded in 100 years due to bearing this Bhagwa-Chola so what can he do if his organisation win 3-4 seats of Loksabha. Whatever the property he is having will all be used in only these 3-4 winnings. It seems that now he realised that he mistakenly made his "Bhagwa-chhap" trade marka image which may be fit for running Ashram type organisation but unfit to lead in a secular union of this Nation. If he really hav courage and willingness to do somehing for people he should come out of Bhgwa-Chola and say Ram-Ram to his Bagwa-chhap image first. Now it will take time an efforts to clean the image afresh but no other option is available for him.	"

Originally posted by :Ram Samudre-DRF [NSSD-UOI]
"	Because generally people see with doubts on Bhagwa-choladhari Babas ever and now Sanasi Baba Aseemanad Bharti jee and Sanyasi Sadhvi Pragya Bharti jee have done "Taboot me aakhiri keel" for all Bhagwa-Trademark. Further the people will never believe on their sanyas to do satyanash of secular democatic set up of this country.	"

Originally posted by :Ram Samudre-DRF [NSSD-UOI]
"	We can afford corruption BUT we cannot afford RAMRAJ. Because, corruption can be cured but dominance of caste atrocity is very difficult to cure. It was by the grace of Britishers that this country can come out of RAMRAJ after thousands years sufferings and entered in democratic set up. Now people will never allow anyone to pull back in that RAMRAJ. Ramdeo Baba has realised this so he is not confident dear Arup ji. Why don’t you understand this simple thing dear !	"

Originally posted by :Ram Samudre-DRF [NSSD-UOI]
"	It is now more than 60 years passed away throwing all such kind of SWAMIs-SEWAKs. Now NO SWAMI and NO SEWAK is into existance in secular democratic India. If some people are not coming out from dreams of SWAMISHIP and pretending to be slept during all these 60 years of democracy so let them happy with pen eyes deams. If someone declares themselves that he/they are SWAMI so what remedy no remedy is available for them and no need to be bothered for them. Let them happy with chemical locha in their mind. They can be awaken those are slept. None can wake up to those are pretending to be slept. And why should others be bothered for them? No need. Now after 26 January 1950 this nation is not under ownership of any RAJA or any SWAMI. This is the nation of every citizen and people are not ready to give it under SWAMITVA of anyone.. SELF DECLARED SWAMI OF INDIA. WOW. Bad joke.	"

Originally posted by :Ram Samudre-DRF [NSSD-UOI]
"	Arup ji, has already advised that everyone is having equl constiutional rights so GO AHEAD in Parliament with clear majority and get poroposals passed as per wish. Everyone is having ONE vote so none is superior for claiming SWAMISHIP and none is inferior to be SEWAK of anyone. It is not "Yoga Class with Ticket/Pass or Fees" and so everyone do ANULOM-VILOM Dand-Baithak on his fingers. Everyone is now having TV with remote so it is at their choice to see Swami Ramdeo Baba's Yoga or change the channel, thats it. And if Yogguru Swami Ramdeo Baba is now under impression that now people should see his yoga channel only, so what one can say except LOL.	"

Originally posted by :Pandit Abhay Panchamvedi LG
"	Bhagwdhhari Sanyaasi Yogi Baba Ramdeo ji, Please make a list of corrupt persons and see their names, you will find that 98% are followers of any such Bhagwdhhari Sanyaasi Yogi Baba and gives huge donation from their money which they earn by corruption. Can you den this? How these Airconditioned Aswhram, A/C cars, luxury travellings, expensive pravachan programmes are going on? Why the Government is not scanning the earnings of these Bhagwdhhari Sanyaasi Yogi Babas?	"

Originally posted by :Pandit Abhay Panchamvedi LG
"	Why not Sachin Tendulker? and many other Masters are their who can claim to be the Prime Minister. Ramdeo is a MASTER of Yoga. Sachin Tendulkar is a Master of Cricket. and,.. an endless list can be made.......	"

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Swami Sadashiva Brahmendra Sar (Nil) 02 March 2011

Jaani bujhi aneetirat, jagat rahe jo soy;

updeshibo jagaaibo, kabhunk uchit na hoy.

If it is not a deliberate annoyance, in what context the topic is being connected with bhagwa and baba ramdev?

In the concept of ramrajya there is nothing agaist buddha, jain, isha, muhammad, nanak, raidas, kabir, rahim, ambedkar or any other saint or social reformer .

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Swami Ramdev Baba s also a pracharak of RAMRAJ so it has concern.

Swami Sadashiva Brahmendra Sar (Nil) 02 March 2011

There may be coincidence in using same word. I have not learnt much about baba or his ideas. Even I don't watch TV so as to get suficient information about communal teachers and their teachings.

Dr.V.N.Tripathi's answers in favour of RAMRAJ v/s Democracy

Continued from this thread;

https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/LCI-as-Parliament--28005.asp?1=1&offset=9

Dr. V.N. Tripathi

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In support of Indian Democracy, the following thread may please be included in this discussion;

Parthasarathi Loganathan

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