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Puja Dixit (HRD)     05 April 2013

Senior quits during probation. advise required

I would like to ask a question. If someone quits in a senior position during probation and is not ready to serve the 2 month notice period and says that he would prefer leaving in a day rather than serving full notice period, would like to be relieved at the earliest and at the most he says that he can only serve one month notice period.

Management decides to relieve that person in one week as there's no point in making someone stay if they're unhappy working in the organization and he readily accepts that offer and is happy to be relieved in one week.

 So during full and final settlement, he is saying that deduction should not be made on the full notice period, but the fact that he was ready to serve 30 days, so his only one month salary should be deducted. However, since we mutually agreed to a particular date and he had no problem in be relieved in one week, will we not consider that particular date as his final date and the rest of the notice period would be deducted.

 Please advise as soon as possible.



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Kumar Doab (FIN)     05 April 2013

The HR in particular should intervene, remain unbiased and arrive at a situation that is win-win for both company and employee.

2 month’s notice period during probation is unreasonable.

Of course it is beneficial for the employer.

The employee who is not satisfied with the working conditions is leaving during probation period i.e. after a short stint which would reflect on his Vitae in times to come.

The company must have advertised that it offers excellent working conditions............The employee realized it is for the sake of advertisement only.

The question which arises is vital for the company also: Why the company is rigid  and unable to ensure the working conditions are conducive for a new employee and old employees and one & all.

Why the HR has failed to ensure that a new employee is able to adjust?

This episode will be watched by existing employees and others in the market.

The employees and candidates in future may conclude that employer is unworthy of being employed with.

Notice period is part of the service conditions and is stated in Standing Orders of the company, appointment letter, Shops and Establishments Act of the state.

If company has its standing orders and are extended to the designation of the employee in question, the service conditions stated in standing orders shall prevail upon the appointment letter. If notice period during probation period in standing orders is NIL it shall prevail.

The Shops and Establishments Act does not indiscriminate between workman and non workman and is applicable to all employees and in Act enacted by many of the states notice period for service up to 3 months is NIL, or during probation period may be 7-15 days. If company is covered by this Act then company should comply.

The dis satisfied employee is going to speak about the tenure and experience about you and your company in the market and it should not be bitter. There should not be any heartburn. Another fact is that best place to fight/compete is market place. The employee may know how to compete/fight in market place.

If you look into long term implications then you should abide by wise comments of the management as posted by you :“to relieve that person in one week as there's no point in making someone stay if they're unhappy working in the organization’

Management can waive off the notice period/pay. Notice period/pay may be waived off.

There are enough publications authored by successful leaders,CEO's that if an employee decides to separate, allow him with a smiling face, without any cost and heartburn, releive him with all accounts settled, and thus retaina friend.

The comments of the employee in exit interview may be properly noted, properly discussed and working conditions may be improved.

 

This is heartfelt opinion. You may proceed as deemed fit at your end.

Valuable advice of learned experts/members is sought.

 

 

 

Puja Dixit (HRD)     05 April 2013

Well, it has nothing to do with the company conditions. Due to some personal reasons he had to quit and had to return to his hometow. But at the same time due to his sudden exit the company incurred a huge loss. What about in this situation? This employee had completed more than 5 months in the organization.

Kumar Doab (FIN)     05 April 2013

You had posted in your first post that “there's no point in making someone stay if they're unhappy working in the organization’

 You have posted in your second post that “Due to some personal reasons he had to quit and had to return to his hometow.”

 

 

Resignation can be without permission or notice.

 

{ Defense forces of our republic may be the only exception.}

 

 

The reason of employee to leave the job is certainly reasonable and justified (personal and to be at his hometown). Let us assume if employee has ailing parent at hometown whom he is legally, socially, personally liable to maintain, then can the company claim that employee has intentionally made a decision to cause a deliberate and intended loss to company.

 

 

--“But at the same time due to his sudden exit the company incurred a huge loss.”

 

What loss? Can you prove it?

 

On the contrary your management is willing to relieve him in a week’s time against a notice period of 2 months inserted by your company in appointment letter crafted/drafted by your company.

 

Moreover notice period of 2 months during probation, is unreasonable.

The period of probation is to test the suitability of employee for permanent employment/confirmation of employment. Your company must be aware that during probation period employee does not have a lien of job.

 

Any policy in the larger interest and beneficial to both employer and the employee has the sanction of law as otherwise it will be easily termed as arbitrary.

 

Does the clause on termination by company specify it shall be the choice of the employee also to accept notice pay in lieu of notice period if employee issues notice of termination?

 

Another interesting part is that employee has willingly offered to serve notice period of one month, and your company’s very wise management has decided to relieve the employee in a week’s time. The goal seems to be to collect 3 weeks notice pay from employee. Private companies are created for profits. However the means should be reasonable.

 

Another point is that if employee has initiated and given date of his retirement (resignation/termination/separation) company can not accept the notice before date of retirement given by employee.

 

If the employee has willingly offered to compensate for shortfall in notice period of one month then company may accept @ Basic + DA and gracefully waive off rest of one month, and bid farewell like a gentleman and handover proper relieving and no adverse comments.

If employee has notified the company on separation it is the duty of the company to set and ensure proper exit process and handover.

Thus you may issue a communication and designate an employee to whom the charge and company property should be handed over.

Your company has expressed willingness for a notice of 7 days

 

Or if your management is bent on extracting two months notice pay @ as decided by it and is willing to file a recovery suite despite your genuine piece of advice, and then let them go for it. They may not get a penny.

Candidates/employees find such companies, management, HR:  Repelling, unworthy of being employed with.

A properly informed, determined, employee counseled by a smart lawyer would know how to handle such a situation without any damage done to him. 

 

The discussion in this thread is heartfelt opinion only.

Finally: as already posted: Rest is up to you.

Valuable advice of learned experts/members is sought.

 

Manish Udar (www.Mehnat.IN)     06 April 2013

He should be a gentleman and forget the extra money if his exit caused a huge loss to the company.

 

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