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NATARAJAN IYER (Proprietor)     08 October 2015

This GODDESS introduced the DV-2005

There always exist Invisible Players in Life.

 

These Invisible players assume themselves to be the KING-MAKERS, whereas in reality,

they are the ENEMIES OF SOCIETY AND LIFE.

 

Along with such Invisible Players, this VISIBLE GODDESS, introduced the DV-2005, and the

genuinely innocent men and their families are paying the price.

 

Her daughter got divorced and she took it upon herself to TEACH ALL MEN A LESSON

 

If you read the DV-Act-2005 you can see this clause. Now this clause can be given life even to a

normal s*xual life since the penetrating organ is with the Man and penetration can mean degrading a

woman she is the one getting penetrated.

 

IF A MAN DOES NOT PENETRATE, HE IS CALLED IMPOTENT.

SHE SAYS HER MARRIAGE WAS NOT CONSUMMATED.

 

IF A MAN PENETRATES, IT CAN BE INTERPRETED AS DEGRADING TO THE WOMAN

SINCE PENETRATING IS ESSENTIALLY PIERCING THROUGH AND BLEEDING OCCURS.

 

NOW, IF BLEEDING OCCURS, THAT IS ASSAULT.

SO, WHAT TO DO ?

 

IF A MAN DOES NOT PENETRATE, HE IS IMPOTENT.

IF HE PENETRATES, SHE BLEEDS.

SINCE SHE BLEEDS DUE TO HIS ACT, HE IS ASSAULTING HER.

 

So, even if the woman is on the top, this DV-Act-2005 can be invoked to arrest the Man.

 

(ii) “s*xual abuse” includes any conduct of a s*xual nature that abuses, humiliates, degrades or otherwise violates the dignity of woman;

 

When this Goddess was asked about the genuine victims among the MEN, she said she pities such men, but brought the act into force.

 

' NO QUESTIONS PERMITTED '

 

' NO DEBATE ALLOWED '

 

' NO DOUBTS CLARIFIED '

 

Act brought into force. All Over.

 

In my personal opinion, if the UPA government returns to power, Indian MEN can line up with

applications for the post of SLAVES.

 

But, Who is this GODDESS behind the DV-Act-2005 that many of you are trapped by ?

 

See here

 

https://indiarun.wordpress.com/2011/05/29/hasan-ali-stayed-with-renuka-chaudhary/

 

 



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 11 Replies

I walk alone (Asst Manager)     08 October 2015

Excellent expose!!

if any ladies, who are reading this post, pls take a note of a few points.

  • No men wants to be anti-feminist. We all mostly know the value of having a female (be it as any role) in our life. We respect you for what you are, and we respect you for all your capabilities. & we also know, how some of you try to mis-use laws made to serve some other purpose.
  • No need to answer me, but try to ask urself, when your birth mother shouts/yell/scold you, you somehow re-act like, its a their parentship & when the same is done by your mother-in-law, you feel that its a domestic violence ? Good practices must start at home only, so why dont you, start filing a case against your mother herself. Does not it make much more sense?
  • Just imagine of a world, when, sec: 498A/406 laws could be imposed opposite way around (from men to women), and ur husband frames you for just a qurrel or some mis-understanding, how would you feel?
  • Just think of a situation, you have your brother & his wife too, and supposingly, you dont stay with them for instance, & all of a sudden you get a summon from Police/Court for a 498/406, whereas, you may have seen her once during the marriage function? how would you react? Jaw-dropped right?
  • Say you're working, (We appreciate a working & earning parner) & you apply for maintainence, u want to get rid of us? then why dont you leave us?

 

A humble request, pls do not misuse the law. You're well-protected by law thus, you dont need to misuse them. Otherwise, in near future, we might be feeling insecured and afraid to get married even & then, you might have to call those Afganis/Russians to produce kids. Forget about even love/care. We are also human & every human re-acts.

Of-cource, we dont wanna hurt you, hence, we might not want you to be there with us too.. Pls dont let this happen....!


(Guest)

But that is not the only reason why PWDVA was brought in, it is to attract female votes, and none else, we did this for women empowerment!

 

And finally men have to suffer.

One application on green sheet is enough to drag entire family of a husband to court hall for years.

And politicians make promises but wont fulfill them.

 

Laws need to be changed, laws needs to be amended I used to hear during 1980s, its 2015 and still I hear the same.

I walk alone (Asst Manager)     08 October 2015

True Gyaan Prakash Sir. Can not agree with you more about it. Women empowerment is something which is very essential, but that doesnt mean, men will be left behind. It is no more about stronger or weaker genders, it is more about who holds the power & now it is pretty evident WHO ACTUALLY HOLDS THE POWER.

Adjustments are not everyone's cup of tea, we know that very well, but the sick thing here is, our legal system & some so called "SOCIALISTS" tends to see the society thru a narrower lense & the system is rusted. but again, who feels comfortable to come out of the comfort zone. Look, its pretty simple fact, we (men) can not live a peaceful life until and otherwise, our women are happy beside us right?? Now of-cource, we dont want to create any such discomfort for them. This is the same situation at National Level too. The Bureaucrats just do not want to leave their comfort zone, do not want to disturb anyone. Everyone of them are aware of this situation, but no-one wants to stand against it and if any individual stands, they get de-motivated or get a visit of some goons. It is becoming a natural pratice now-a-days.

Just visit a lawyer about (from a girls side) and ask for filing a divorce, they will suggest to attach 406,498,125 along. Seems like a COMPLETE PACKAGE SYSTEM. "OPT FOR DIVORCE & GET 406,498,125 FREE"

It is no more a family matter, it is more of marketing & for this, the actual incidents gets hidden. Look once again, I'm not saying, Wife abuses doesnt happen in India, but, there should be some changes to the law for filing a false case, some punishment must be there. Otheriwse the numbers of such false cases will increase and increase and one fine day a man will decide to stay single thinking, "prevention is better than cure".

 

 


(Guest)

Further.. all such are done only in the name of EMPOWERING WOMAN... Modi ji is married but has chosen to stay away from faimiy life, Rahul is least bothered about marrying, Sonia ji was once married.  Anna ji is bachelor and Salman also is least bothered about marrying.  who will bring the change? You Mr Iyer, or me or are they all giving a broader message in general I wonder sometimes.

But the optimist in me says, nobody deserves to be single, each person should marry and prosper.

There is something wonderful about leading family life.

Laws will be there, and some more laws will come up which are pro-women, but if one wants to go ahead with marriage, one needs to be game.

 

People tried to change the system, became one among them [instances are many] after joining the system, that itself tells that one has to play with whatever options are available, within the lifespan available.

No ifs, No buts.

 

No use blaming anyone.  If it has to, one should blame one's own self.

NATARAJAN IYER (Proprietor)     08 October 2015

@ Gyan Prakash

 

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Good Lines

 

" But the optimist in me says, nobody deserves to be single, each person should marry and prosper. There is something wonderful about leading family life.

 

Laws will be there, and some more laws will come up which are pro-women, but if one wants to go ahead with marriage, one needs to be game. "

 

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No use blaming anyone.  If it has to, one should blame one's own self.

 

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I walk alone (Asst Manager)     08 October 2015

Hmm. ur right Gyaan Prakash Ji.. Knowing these many things also, there are couple happily existed. Maturedly adjusted among themselves. Handling their issues so carefully, that, not even their own parents can get into. So of-cource there are lots of examples of such people & couple & relationships. Its us, whom need to understand that change of mentality is essential.

advocatepassy@gmail.com 971794 (Advocate)     08 October 2015

Yes, we all agree that men are the worst sufferer because of these anti social empowered clauses in favour of women.  Can we achieve anything by sharing our thoughts on this Firum.  No parliamentarian will agree to change this law as his party would be dubbed as male chauvinist 

NATARAJAN IYER (Proprietor)     09 October 2015

@ Adv.Vinod Passy.

 

This forum itself, as the name suggests, is a FORUM for inter-exchange of view-points.

what can be achieved ? Now, this is a tough question to answer.

some might have it in memory and remain alert.

some might pass on knowledge to friends and relatives and make them alert.

in general, chances of good, are high.

so, out of a good intention, we members ( including you ) contribute our points here.

 

khayaalaath toh naek hain....accha hua toh it is a good development.

 

such forums and posts played a major role in reducing 498A to it's currently diluted form by bringing many victims closer for a common cause.

 

we should not forget that.

 

I THINK AT ONE STAGE IN LIFE, A PERSON WHO SEES SOCIETY AS IT IS, DEVELOPS COMPASSION AND KINDNESS AND GIVES HIS TIME,MONEY AND ENERGY TO SUCH FORUMS AND VICTIMS ON HUMANITARIAN GROUNDS AND COMPASSION.


(Guest)
Originally posted by : Advocate Vinod Passy New Delhi
Yes, we all agree that men are the worst sufferer because of these anti social empowered clauses in favour of women.  Can we achieve anything by sharing our thoughts on this Firum.  No parliamentarian will agree to change this law as his party would be dubbed as male chauvinist 

A 4 year course is all it takes to wear that thing you are wearing ie the black coat and white collar.  But if lawyers would have been so very ethical and would follow code of conduct prescribed, then why would litigants come to such online forums?  Why would this forum exist in the first place?  For people like you is it?  Who already studied law and cannot guide clients and litigants properly?

The reason why you are here and many other lawyers can be done over a cupple of pegs sitting in a bar, which you people do mostly and decide on how to proceed with case [both party lawyers sit and discuss on how to loot their respective clients] why come here and tell the above?  If there is no use in doing anything, why have you come to this forum?  Can you please share sir?

 

Not every discussion done on onilne forums are passed on to politicians to churn out new laws or with the assumption that some politicians will read.  Dont poilticians have sons and dotters?  Dont they have dotter inlaws and parents?

 

When you begin to bring politics into this, there is a big divide between the haves and have nots, a drunk driver mows down couple of people and walks away free by the end of a lengthy trial, one Mr Dhinakarans appoitment was opposed by your own brethren, why?  In our country there are two types of law, one for people who have money, and one for those who dont have it.  Just for Eg, Prabhudeva, and latest Kiccha Sudeep threw money to get MCD, when their marital life was in discord, they had money, they gave, the latter gave 19 crores alimony to his wife and dotter. But are there not many men who are not even able to pay alimony properly?  What is law then?  Why this double standard?  Only a lawyer of your caliber can I hope to explain?

SuperHero (Manager)     09 October 2015

It is all about Money...Money More Money...

Money..Money what will you do?

I will create rift between Husband and Wife, Between Brothers and Between families...

Can Money Buy Food, Iphone, Android Phones, Mac books, Buildings, Flats, Gold, Cars etc.,

Yes definitely.

Can money get you Peace?

Yes by giving one shot alimony, all cases closed and get an MCD.

And Yes Money can make many things.

But Can Money Buy Love, Compassion and Happiness?

I don't think so. If the answer is Yes, then all millionaries and billionaries in this world should be happy all times.

Instead it brought more unhappiness.

As we live in the World of Machines. We lost the touch of humanbeings.

The Western World has transformed there dependence to Dog.

The dog doesn't know money, when the owner of the house comes it barks, it comes sits next to you, licks you and makes you cheerful. If you had a bad day it can sense and becomes quiet.

When it is fed, it eats....and is happy and is the most pet friendly animal. When robbers or enemies comes it alerts you.

And a very Great man said, reverse Dog and You see GOD.

The real love is between a Mother and Child, Some times Father feels it too when the 3 year or 4 year old comes and hugs you when you come from office with out an expectation.

Except all that it is a transaction or an expectation, Give and Take.

When the expectation doesn't match then comes 498a, DV, list of complaints and so on....

If a Man has a job or property or an ATM (Any Time Money or Any Time Money Making Man) then only the Girls Parents will even look at the match. If not he is a DUMMY Piece.

From Facebook...

Boy: Daddy I want to marry ...
Dad: First say sorry..
Boy: For what, without any of my mistake?
Dad: You first say sorry ...
Boy: But what's my fault?
Dad: You first say sorry ...
Boy: Ok, I am sorry
Dad: Now you are ready, your training is complete. You can marry

I walk alone (Asst Manager)     09 October 2015

Adv. Vinod Sir, Yes, I agree, we wont anything discussing anything here. Seriously wont get anything. But just for an assumption, just give a thought to some of my opinions pointed below

  • Of cource, the husbands here, would not enough time if they would have got a good solution of their problems & knowing that fact too, we are here, asking & discussing about best possible soulitions from the experts like you.
  • Its not only a post from Natarajan Sir, its a silent plead from the men who have been harrased. some or other way to cry their heart out.
  • I guess when a law is made, it might have been made for a good cause and to protect the innocent and punish the gulities, but, can you cite one such example where a innocent husband had been benifited other than MCD and burning his hard earned money? Hardly a few. Have you ever heard of a case where, a husband has filed a petition of DV against a wife? No right? but believe me, there are many such instances of Serious DV by a wife and her parents to the Husband & in-laws. We feel helpless, no-one is there from the judicial system to hear our problem. Then the next question is, where would we go?
  • We dont get the laws beside us, dont we need them? It is very much projected that men are dominating in the society. Just tell sir, do you think so, after seeing so many cases here and there? Who dominates whom?

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