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Whether new proposed marraiage law another whip to husbands?

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sunil (Engineer)     30 March 2012

I have a small question, as i am not aware much about this law,here is my question.

As 98% cases are false cases .(498A).

1st approach:

The wife files false 498a against husband, and demands huge lumpsum money,if she gets well and good she makes an agreement and takes back the cases .

In future, she may say i cant maintain my-self and i needs share on the property of husband.

2nd approach:

The wife files 498a against husband and demands huge lumpsum money,but husband wants to fight the case. If He wins the case in the benefit of doubt after a long battle.

She may apply for divorse or he may apply for divorse:

If she applies for divose and claims the propery of husband (I agree it depends on the merit of the case).

If Husband applies for divorse, she says i cant maintain my-self and need share on the property of husband.

Then what is the purpose of husband fighting the false 498a???

As 98% are false casesthen they should face the above situation.

As i am not a law student and i dont know much about the law, Please correct me if i am wrong

Manav Kalia (Arguing my own cases..)     30 March 2012

Aishwarya, issues have solutions, but not temperaments. The very fact that people are knocking on the door of the courts, means they have not been able to find solutions. Temperament has no solution..

Manav Kalia (Arguing my own cases..)     30 March 2012

Sunil, if the second motion was not signed then she can file any claim on you in the future..

Manav Kalia (Arguing my own cases..)     30 March 2012

Sunil, right now these amendments have not become law, no one knows when they become law and in what form. Conjecture at this stage on the impact it will have on 498a is quite pre mature at this stage..

kumar101 (clerk)     30 March 2012

@sunil . The point below that your making is really valid and pertinent as that is how future 498a's will go. Looks like women can bake the cake and eat it too.

a) File 498a and ask for big lumpsum
.b) If lumpsum denied, then file for maitnenace & DV and let the 498a case run till acquital.

c) Live happily on husbands maitenance till husband makes the next move

d)Let husband file for divorce based on 3yr separation and claim husbands property, alimony/maitnenace etc etc.

Wow, women can have field day at husbands expense.

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If Husband applies for divorse, she says i cant maintain my-self and need share on the property of husband.

Then what is the purpose of husband fighting the false 498a???

aditya (Owner)     30 March 2012

@kumar101

Sir wht will happen if this IRBM grounds is not available in the same case...then men will be screwed royally...which is happening in the present scenirio atleast after this law there is chance atleast two exists this all episode...

Aishwarya (Teacher)     30 March 2012

@ mirage

when someone has to find something for "knock knock," then what can be done ? nothing..

so one of the cause may become temperament as may u have come across ....but it does subside it never stays forever or does it ?.can a person be happy, sad, worried, cool, or  be angry forever and ever..

no it just cant be...things do change its just the time that needs to be done away with  ..only then can a state of goodness be achieved ..just hold on with the time, and temperament later on may cease to exist and thereby it could be channelised into different modes when not given the limelight and it be held subdued..actually it should be given importance by either parties...thereby less of differences ie temperamental differences..

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Manav Kalia (Arguing my own cases..)     30 March 2012

@aishwarya, the difference in temperament of the two parties, creates a gap in the marital equation which starts slowly over time, small in the beginning, but becomes very big and leads to a breakdown in the marital ties. Issues which were once petty, loom large over the marriage, and ultimately results in people knocking on the door of the courts. I find it extremely useless to play the blame game, and say whether the man was wrong or the woman. Isn't the fact that they can't live together happily sufficient cause for divorce so they can both move on happily?

Aishwarya (Teacher)     30 March 2012

@ manav

there seems to be different set of opinions ..happiness doesnt mean u have to do away with marriage or family or relationship if u arnt comfortable for a moment or two with a person ..conflicts happen everywhere..with mother father, sibling grandparents. but do we do away with them in pen or paper..No Never..if a child has a father or mother having temperament and vis a vis ..do the parents or child leave each other, just coz they intend to be happy..no ..its just for a while these things happen..and we need to pass that time..as u give time to all this..things do change..

why it has to be in a marital relationship always coz we always have the option to break free and thats why....our family our parents theres no option in tht..we were never raised with such thoughts nor seen any of tht..but wht we see now is the marital disputes , divorces, and cases,and so on..but its just that if we have the conception of this thought in our mind that whatever it be we have to be together no matter wht..
And in this whole thing ..i guess human being is more important than marriage..marriage always comes after two people..if thy r together thn thyr could be existence of all institutions..so priority should be a person ..later things may exist forever and ever..one may not think everyday that this person is the outcome of a marriage..rather it should be other way round.. hmmmmmmmmmm now hope i do make sense when i speak this ..am not imposing my thoughts, its just what i believe in..

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Manav Kalia (Arguing my own cases..)     30 March 2012

Aishwarya, thanks for being candid enough to say that you're voicing your thoughts and indulging in any imposition. There are a couple of flaws in your arguments supporting your thinking. One that comparing husband and wife to parents and siblings is like comparing apples and oranges, because there is no blood relationship between husband and wife unlike the other two. Secondly parents do disown kids and vice versa, so that option is there even in blood relationships, so why not in a marriage?

Mentally Depressed (will tell you later)     31 March 2012

@ Aishwarya..Your wording shows that your views are much sympathetic towards the man community..The majority of women speaks one voice when any thing has been drafted in favor of them. It also seen that some profiles are fake and may have been posted in differnt I.D to give false impression to the public

kumar101 (clerk)     31 March 2012

If IRBM is not available, then u will file for divorce etc in 3rd year of 498a etc. If ur convicted in 498a, u will withdraw the divorce petition so that wife will don't go scott free. If ur not convicted then, get divorce without giving any property share. 

If both agree then u can get MCD in 6months without waiting for 3yrs of separation as per IRBM.

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@kumar101

Sir wht will happen if this IRBM grounds is not available in the same case...then men will be screwed royally...which is happening in the present scenirio atleast after this law there is chance atleast two exists this all episode..

Aishwarya (Teacher)     31 March 2012

@ manav

am not indulging in any imposition..again id correct u on tht..

i agree with the flaws tht u pointed out but they could be in ur view but its not for me, as i havent come across such scenes and if it were to be it will be only in minute prcntage..
and if one has to keep thinking about OPtions then where would one stop in life i wonder..there will be nothing then no relation, no emotion nothing if one  keeps options in life for every other thing ..it just cannot function with such mindset if ur with someone u have to make things work sincerely..

@ mentally depressed

i speak what i see and believe in..and i have no problem in speaking with conscience...its more of par gender for me coz truth is truth ..

Manav Kalia (Arguing my own cases..)     01 April 2012

@ aishwarya, it was a typo in the last post, it was supposed to be that you don't impose your thoughts, actually i'm glad to see that you're not indulging in any imposition. The basic flaw in your argument is that people should have the freedom to remarry which they don't have unless they get a divorce. So unless you think it is better to stay in an unhappy marriage than get a divorce and be able to remarry, your anti divorce stand is not going to cut it..

Aishwarya (Teacher)     01 April 2012

@manav

it seems to me ur putting words in my mouth..i never said am anti divorce..i wonder when i said tht..

am of the opinion that a relationship should be worked out..its nothing to do with divrorce actually..i dont mind anyone going  for marriage a number of times..its just that my topic is different that is to work a marriage be it first second third or last..i stress about the issue that a person needs to find solutions to marital problems rather than landing up in divorce time n again..if things dont work..its an individuals call whether to go for it or not..

still if u percieve my thoughts to be so , its ur take i cannot help change that nor do i intend to..but please try to understand my view ..if not then go over my posts again and ponder over them, the point i try to make out..its all positive , i contribute no negativity in here and i wish to see positive solutions to life not the other ones..


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