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Shonee Kapoor (Legal Evangelist - TRIPAKSHA)     05 October 2011

Dear Adv Chandu,

 

Instead of answering the question, you have choosen to launch a personal attack. I would have let it go, but it raises some doubts on my neutral standings and hence the reply:

 

If you read the threads properly you won't find so many contradictions. Read yet another post by me. And do note it to the female this time .....

 

Hi! I have somewhere else also stated that some fools don't want to settle, and if one of the party is fool, there can not be any compromise. Hence proceed ex-parte and lead your life peacefully. Regards, Shonee Kapoor harassed.by.498a@gmail.com

 

Even Lord Krishna gave peace the last chance. Five Villages only for five Pandavas. But then fools didnot agree and we had the biggest mythological war.

 

QUESTION STILL REMAINS ADV CHANDU - WHAT IS JUSTICE? NOT BEING ABLE TO REAR CHILDREN AFTER 10 YEARS OF LITIGATION? PROBABLY NOT BEING ABLE TO MARRY AGAIN? IS IT JUSTICE?

 

Goodgirl Mumbai, 

 

You would have heard, "Justice Delayed is Justice Denied"

 

You asked about Justice: It is concept of MORAL RIGHTNESS based on so many factors. including but not limited to ethics, fairness, law, rationality and yes EQUITY, alongwith punishment of the breach of said moral rightness.

 

Talking about punishment w/o giving peace a chance IN MATRIMONIAL LIFE WHERE BOTH STAND TO LOOSE THEIR YOUTH is surely not justice.

 

Regards,

 

Shonee Kapoor

harassed.by.498a@gmail.com

 

PS: And I also believe in what my best friend Calvin once said, "I have my standards, they might be low, but I have them." (Read Calvin and Hobbes)

gaury..fight to win (Education)     05 October 2011

 

 If this girl apply for divorce on husband's adultery ground and if husband changes his mind that he will not give divorce then the divorce case will go go for min 3/4 years in the lower court.If boy approaches higher court then it will take more such years.

In the meantime the boy will be living with his K**P happily and the girl will be at her parent's house and spending parent's money for litigation.Is not this?


After getting cheated this way , rearing child is no more a dream for a girl .This type of cheating make the girl's existence zero.

Just not being smart...can not be a ground to leave a married wife.This is not peace, this is defeat of one's selfrespect in the hand of some strangers met in the mid of lifetime.


(Guest)

OK

.So all martimonial laws books should be sent to mueseum and all family courts should be converted to Peace centre.

Adv. Chandrasekhar (Advocate)     06 October 2011

I wonder the justice means for the niece of Mrs.Jasvir Bath to keep calm and allow her husband to have as many extra marital relationships as many ditching the girls one by one without facing any criminal trial and for Rajender goel to fight it out.  For me, justice means to exercise the legal rights available under the Constitution and statutes of India including the natural rights (human rights) not codified till date.

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Shonee Kapoor (Legal Evangelist - TRIPAKSHA)     06 October 2011

Hmmmm,

 

So its either my way or Highway. Don't be so rigid

 

No, all law books should be there, where they are.

 

I am just suggesting give Alternative Dispute Resolution a chance.

 

Regards,

 

Shonee Kapoor

harassed.by.498a@gmail.com

Shonee Kapoor (Legal Evangelist - TRIPAKSHA)     06 October 2011

OK, now I got it, it was written in Alice in Wonderland

 

"Hang him, Hang him, shouted the Red Queen.

We would fix the blame later."

 

So, my friends are suggested take action first and talk later. And I am saying talk first and take action later, if talks fail.

 

Regards,

 

Shonee Kapoor

harassed.by.498a@gmail.com

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Anjuru Chandra Sekhar (Advocate )     07 October 2011

Mrs. Bhatt,

 

I am fully in support of your neice.  Most relationships fail after they take a legal recourse.  I just felt you had left some interest in seeing the boy and girl live together again.  If that is what you want, then not taking legal recourse is the best option.  Once you take legal recourse, the message that you send across to other party is that you are prepared to hurt him whatever be the consequences of your actions.  That is how relationship will break.  When we say, "I want to teach a lesson to someone", some negative feeling is there inside motivating us to say that.  May be anger.  That is what I call "evil".  Whatever we do with such negative instincts will carry negative reactions in those people who we aim at. 

 

I wanted to say if you are interested to mend the boy through negotiations, you should not have the attitude of "I want to teach a lesson to him".  If you have it, then take a legal recourse and forget about having your girl lead marital life with him, because he is already a spoiled brat, and after you take legal recourse, the hurt you cause will spoil him further.  There is no use thinking about taking a legal recourse and simultaneously wishing that the boy and girl will live peacefully. 

 

That is the point I wanted to make.  Sorry if my statement unknowingly hurt you.

rajiv_lodha (zz)     08 October 2011

Originally posted by :Adv. Chandu 09868332610
"
I wonder the justice means for the niece of Mrs.Jasvir Bath to keep calm and allow her husband to have as many extra marital relationships as many ditching the girls one by one without facing any criminal trial and for Rajender goel to fight it out.  For me, justice means to exercise the legal rights available under the Constitution and statutes of India including the natural rights (human rights) not codified till date.
"

Sorry, I do not agree with Ld Chandu's this view. Even if we are successful in troubling a law breaker, where is the gaurentee that he WILL LEARN A LESSON?

We know so many criminals who even go in & out of jail a lot of times but never shun their way!

So in my view, the instinct that "I WILL TEACH HIM A LESSON" is a suicidal instinct. One shud open the eyes to groud realities, in our country, things move in such a way that if u want to trouble the other 100 degrees, u have to self trouble urself to 90 degrees.

ManjunathV (Employee)     10 October 2011

I joined the forum today....thinking I'll post my situation and seek some advice. However... looks like judicial vigilantism is more than serious advisory. Adv Chandu (self promoting with his phone number blazing) seems like he is out to teach not just the rich boy but everyone a "lesson".... and mumbai goodgirl... well I read some of your  other posts ... I can understand... that you are still a "girl" so go on with no consequence. 

I tend to agree towards pragmatism here..... 

unrepentant rich boy, will not "learn a lesson" becuase of what you will do to him in courts.....nor will other girls learn from this brave activism of yours. 

Pragmatism - Cut your losses.....settle for a mutual consent, walk away from pain and build your life. In your highly emotional state, Mrs. Jasvir Bath, you will feel good to see some activist comments here....but like Shonee says... think... and then act. 

Arif Iqbal (Advocate)     10 October 2011

Another option is:

 

File a case for restitution of conjugal life.
 


(Guest)
Originally posted by :ManjunathV
"
I joined the forum today....thinking I'll post my situation and seek some advice. However... looks like judicial vigilantism is more than serious advisory. Adv Chandu (self promoting with his phone number blazing) seems like he is out to teach not just the rich boy but everyone a "lesson".... and mumbai goodgirl... well I read some of your  other posts ... I can understand... that you are still a "girl" so go on with no consequence. 

I tend to agree towards pragmatism here..... 

unrepentant rich boy, will not "learn a lesson" becuase of what you will do to him in courts.....nor will other girls learn from this brave activism of yours. 

Pragmatism - Cut your losses.....settle for a mutual consent, walk away from pain and build your life. In your highly emotional state, Mrs. Jasvir Bath, you will feel good to see some activist comments here....but like Shonee says... think... and then act. 
"

Y you thought you will not get advice fr your problem here?Here all are advicing the author at their own way.If you did not get the reply of your choice then it is upto you.You have just jumped into the forum and commenting like this?

 unrepentant rich boy, will not "learn a lesson" becuase of what you will do to him in courts.....nor will other girls learn from this brave activism of yours.

How did you know that he will not learn a lesson??Just because he is rich..??Do his wealth has given him the right of destroying innocent girl's life? 

But i do agree that before going to any legal proceedings i wud like the family members of both the family should sit and discuss once more.

 



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ManjunathV (Employee)     14 October 2011

I am very sure I will get the advice I need. Which is why I joined the forum.

I am only concerned that the advice for Ms.Bhatt is all very emotional. You (goodgirl_mumbai) are speaking of something you cannot control. Whether the rich boy will learn a lesson or not is not in your hands. My comment is that the most likely outcome out of the aggressive advice is her niece will not gain anything. This is a case where plain speaking will do more good than good old 498A.

I am myself in a situation where I am trying to solve by across the table talks. But, if everything fails, the law is there to help.

abhishek (1)     14 October 2011

Some people try to play GOD

respect the elder, saying only truth etc. are our ethics and culture and should not be elligible for filing 498 or humiliating girl/boy with family

Respected Shonee Kapoor's and chandrasekhar's Statements are Selfless One

I THINK - If boy was repeatedly physically torturing without any reason than don't give a second thought - Just file the case and this will give him clue what worse can happen

otherwise it is of no sense to get everyone exploited in courts- own's family and other's (including this extra marital affair matter)

becoz these should be sorted out mutually agreed


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