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Anna Ramdeo Agniesh Kejriwal Kiran Bedi make a Team 2b MPs

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seshadri vikrala ( Asst.Security Commissioner/Group 'A' RETIRED)     07 June 2011

 

·   What a wonderful matter--Dr Singh's promise of getting the dhan (money) back in 100 days, please explain what is the status? The status shall be as is where is condition; we have ,in my considered view, no Law to force some one to disclose the Bank Accounts they held in India or in Foreign Banks, unless the CBI or any other I.O. with Authority from the Court take an Order to that specific point and query only. Then how one can expect that the Black Money (undisclosed) deposited by some one even on binary names, etc. shall be handed over to India with out any query by others.. Never, there is not even an Ordinance to ban circulation of RE:1000/- NOTE in market and that shall be deposited in the BANKS henceforth , say within one week's time,,, that is YOU see how much of Re:1000/- shall be there in the Banks account??? You can release the same after some months....now see how much of Re:1000/- notes deposited in the Banks, may be several lakhs of crores... how to account for it is just a story to build up!

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     07 June 2011

1) he took permission on false declration that he will do yoga not politics at ramlila vanue.

 

---   this tricky explanation given when three days already passed.

why the delhi police did not take any action on 3rd of june itself, when this was violated?

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     07 June 2011

2) All the people there was not public but his workers under various schemes.

 

---   so what?

we saw in tv that, people comes  diffrent province of the country sponteneously.

many of them says that they came for corruption issue not for yoga.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     07 June 2011

3) Mellee at the spot started because baba had no courage to face the authorities and he hid himself behind the group of ladies.

 

---   conspirecy of murder of the baba is the cause of action.

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Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     07 June 2011

I also wanna know why ramdev is entitled to do only yoga ? Was that is written in our constitution ? Isn't our politicians has huge businesses ? Wan't bajaj, sindhia, rana steel etc.etc. who are huge businessmen's doing politics ? Why not anyone stopping him ?

 

 

---   yes, a good and basic question.

has anybody any answer on it?


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Permission from Government for protest against Government????????

What a foolish logic...

It is wrong concept that permission is required from Government for protest against Government.

In fact, only a letter is needed in advance for information that at such n such venue a morcha is to be organised or by such n such road at such n such time a morcha has to move. IT IS JUST FOR INFORMATION TO THE GOVERNMENT AND NO PERMISSION IS REQUIRED. THIS NOTICE/LETTER IS SO THAT NECESSARY ARRANGEMENTS CAN BE MADE FOR SMOOTH FUNCTIONING OF MOVEMENT OF OTHER PEOPLE AND TO ENSURE LAW & ORDER.

No permission is requied as the people of India are the masters and Government & Administration is their servants. And Masters do not suppose to seek any permission from servants.

THE MAIN THING IS THAT THE CONSTITUTION IS SUPREME AND NONE IS ALLOWED TO GO BEYOND IT.

PEOPLE ARE FREE TO USE THEIR RIGHT TO EXPRESSION PUBLICALLY BUT IT SHOULD BE ENSURED THAT OTHERS FREEDOM & CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS SHOULD NOT BE BROKEN, THAT'S ALL.

SANTOSHSINGH. (ADVOCATE sardarsena@gmail.com)     07 June 2011

if ramdev does not need persmission no body else should also need pesmission to start any agitaion.

and what is his yoga all fake.

anybody if have time just read Patanjal the orginator of yoga and see what this baba is doing.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     07 June 2011

It is wrong concept that permission is required from Government for protest against Government.

 

---   this is absolutely right.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     07 June 2011

In fact, only a letter is needed in advance for information that at such n such venue a morcha is to be organised or by such n such road at such n such time a morcha has to move.

IT IS JUST FOR INFORMATION TO THE GOVERNMENT AND NO PERMISSION IS REQUIRED. THIS NOTICE/LETTER IS SO THAT NECESSARY ARRANGEMENTS CAN BE MADE FOR SMOOTH FUNCTIONING OF MOVEMENT OF OTHER PEOPLE AND TO ENSURE LAW & ORDER.

 

---   it is not exactly so that ‘no permission’ required. As you told that law and order situation to be maintained, for which local police responsible, they (the police) have to provide scope, and on that point permission required.

 

Sometimes we experienced that, police did not allow a particular political group not to allow a meeting, on a particular place or not allowed a procession to a particular road. It is within their power, but  this power can not be used  with intention to haras the political group. The decission of police to be reasonable. Even it can be challenged.

 

In case of ramdeo baba, this thing is challenged at sc.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     07 June 2011

PEOPLE ARE FREE TO USE THEIR RIGHT TO EXPRESSION PUBLICALLY BUT IT SHOULD BE ENSURED THAT OTHERS FREEDOM & CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS SHOULD NOT BE BROKEN, THAT'S ALL.   ---   Exactly.

adv. rajeev ( rajoo ) (practicing advocate)     08 June 2011

When permission was not given to Ramdev why govt., tried to convince him, Govt., could have arrested him immediately.  

See UPA govt., is playing a game, this incident has caused much loss to them, in a frustration every day one of the leaders of cong-I party giving statements , as if they are Mr.Cleans.  Indian Citizens are not Fools 

Democratic Indian (n/a)     08 June 2011

Originally posted by :Ram Samudre-DRF [NSSD-UOI]
" PEOPLE ARE FREE TO USE THEIR RIGHT TO EXPRESSION PUBLICALLY BUT IT SHOULD BE ENSURED THAT OTHERS FREEDOM & CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS SHOULD NOT BE BROKEN, THAT'S ALL. "

Do you really believe people are truly allowed right to freedom of expression, freedom of speech and assembly when they are not allowed a basic natural and human freedom to defend their lives? On the other hand they their freedoms been cleverly placed at the mercy of the government. How? Read below:

 

Article 19(1)(b) to assemble peaceably and without arms;

 

Doesn't this article in Constitution say that people will have to assemble without arms so that their lives can be at mercy of government? Doesn't this article say that in order to make the government's job of attacking people be made easiest by making them disarmed? Come on let us face the facts.

 

Isn't this article 19(1)b the biggest trick and mischief with the people of India. How? Constitution is supposed to be the voice of people. In Article 19(1)b it says it cannot trust the people of India if they assemble with arms, just like dictators, colonial rulers, fascists cannot trust the people assembling with arms. In other words people of India are saying to themselves that they cannot trust themselves when they assemble with arms! What a height of absurdity that people of India accepted that too in their Constitution! Isn't it a fraud with people of India? For detailed understanding of this Article please read https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/RKBA-guaranteed-under-Articles-19-and-21-of-Constitution-36011.asp

 

You can’t wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.” – Navajo Proverb

 

If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place, oblige it to control itself.” – James Madison, Federalist No. 51, February 8, 1788.

R K JAIN (Advocate)     08 June 2011

Saints should not participate in any politics rally or procession but give the advice as and when required for the welfare of the society. If the saints will participate in rally or procession like Ramdev then the respect for saints will vanish.

Democratic Indian (n/a)     08 June 2011

Originally posted by :RAVINDER KUMAR JAIN
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Saints should not participate in any politics rally or procession but give the advice as and when required for the welfare of the society. If the saints will participate in rally or procession like Ramdev then the respect for saints will vanish.
"

Your assertion carries no merit as we need saint-soldiers. Only saints are not sufficient, only soldiers are also not sufficient. We need combination of both. Concept of Miri Piri is an age old concept in India. Read this to understand https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Miri_and_Piri

R K JAIN (Advocate)     08 June 2011

To become saint a person has to be strong from inside and to become a soldier he has to become strong from inside and out side. You talk about the saints which were strong from both sides but todays saints are not strong from both sides. Some saints may be strong from out side but may be weak from inside and some saints may be weak from outside but strong from inside. Concept of Miri piri is good if you find in todays world also.

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