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Sunny Sahdev   04 December 2018

2nd brother claiming ownership in Ground Floor

Hello need help. We live in property which was built by my grandfather. As per registered WILL he has clearly mentioned entire ground floor foes to my father who is no more and 1st floor belongs to elder son. Now elder son my Taaya is trying to claim front & rear verandah of the house. He is harassing my widow mom and me since past 6 months. We have given multiple complaints with CCTV footage & videos to local police station but seems as he idenied cannot help and ask to report to local police station.
s super senior citizen police is not taking any action against him. When we were living as joint family we allowed his kids and him to park 2 wheeler in front verandah and now since years we are not in talking terms and he ia fighting over occupying verandah and claims he is ow er too as it is open space.

Kindly guide me what shall we do.

My mom tried approaching women cell too but they clearly


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Sunny Sahdev   04 December 2018

Hello need help. We live in property which was built by my grandfather. As per registered WILL he has clearly mentioned entire ground floor goes to my father who is no more and 1st floor belongs to elder son. Now elder son my Taaya is trying to claim front & rear verandah of the house. He is harassing my widow mom (61 yrs) and me (35 yrs) since past 6 months. We have given multiple complaints with CCTV footage & videos to local police station but seems as he is super senior citizen(71 yrs) police is not taking any action against him. When we were living as joint family we allowed his kids and him to park 2 wheeler in front verandah and now since years we are not in talking terms and he is fighting over occupying verandah and claims he is owner too as it is open space.

Kindly guide me what shall we do.

My mom tried approaching women cell too but they clearly denied cannot help and ask to report to local police station.

Shashi Dhara   04 December 2018

U have to file civil suit in civil court. The matter is purely civil .police cannot help u.

Kumar Doab (FIN)     04 December 2018

Apparently your Tayaaji may not be entirely wrong.

If the testator bequeathed by valid/registered WILL the built up portion then open space may be for common use by all beneficiaries.

Have you shown the WILL to a very able LOCAL counsel? What is the opinion of yor own counsel?

Has the WILL been duly acted upon without any cloud on IT?

Post death of testator/beneficiary have you updated in mutations records?

Probably there is NO worthy point in dispute being reported that is why NO one has acted.

Kumar Doab (FIN)     04 December 2018

Which personal law applies in your case?

Are you all covered by Hindu Succession laws?

The property is in which state?

Confirm!

 

Your matter may be covered by Hindu succession laws.

Succession opens on date of death; by inheritance or by testamentary succession (by valid WILL).

In case of Hindu male dying without disposing her estate/property in her life time by a valid/registered deed the 1st right is of ClassI legal heirs i.e Mother (if alive as on date of death), Wife (if alive as on date of death), sons, daughters……

 

In case of deceased Hindu woman dying without disposing her estate/property in her life time by a valid/registered deed ClassI,II is not applicable rather nature and source of property matters.

 

If the property is self acquired/earned/absolute in the hands of Hindu woman the 1st right is of her husband (if alive as on date of death) and sons, daughters…………

If property is acquired from husband side 1st right is of her sons, daughters…………and if sons, daughters are not available then legal heirs of husband..

If property is acquired from parents side 1st right is of her sons, daughters…………and if sons, daughters are not available then legal heirs of father..

 

IT is mandatory to probate the WILL in the areas of Bombay, Calcutta, and Madras.

IT is not mandatory to probate the WILL in other areas. IT is not mandatory to register the WILL.

The WILL should just be valid. Unregistered WILL can be acted upon.

The last valid WILL prevails.

 

Kumar Doab (FIN)     04 December 2018

The authority under whose jurisdiction property falls has a set procedure for such matters if NO WILL has surfaced; Intestate Succession…….and the prescribed forms, procedure, process is available in O/o Authority and even on website. Death certificates, legal heir certificate/affidavit (per local procedure-precedence) are basic requirements. Then authority shall act upon and transfer the ownership in the name of legal heirs. Obtain copy of updated mutations records showing share of legal heirs. This grants rights equal to that of owner to legal heirs. All legal heirs are at liberty to relinquish/release/transfer/gift/sell their share in anyone’s favor.

 

The authority under whose jurisdiction property falls has a set procedure for such matters if the WILL has surfaced; Testate Succession…….and the prescribed forms, procedure, process is available in O/o Authority and even on website. Certified copies of the WILL, death certificate, legal heir certificate/affidavit (per local procedure/precedence) are basic requirements. The authority may ask for NOC from legal heirs (other than beneficiary) and/or to release newspaper advt and/or may write to legal heirs to submit their objections if any within set time.

 

If there is NO contest to the WILL by any legal heir then authority shall act upon the WILL without any cloud on it and transfer the ownership in the name of beneficiary.

If WILL is contested it lands up in probate court of pecuniary jurisdiction. The court shall decide on validity of WILL.

The legal heirs may also consider perspective of registered family settlement after the WILL and register it.
Check locally and comply with procedure. Thereafter concerned official in the O/o Authority e.g; Patwari, shall act upon the matter and transfer the ownership by inheritance/probate in the name of legal heirs in mutations records.

Thereafter obtain copy of updated mutation records.

For partition by boundaries either decide amicably (best recourse) or take help of other elders of the family or panchyaat or court of law..

If WILL is not submitted to be acted upon then it becomes matter of succession per personal law that applies.

Although it is wrong since the WILL exists.

Check locally and comply with procedure.

Resolve the matter amicably across the table and say; front opens space (after leaving common pessage goes to residents on GF and back open space goes to residents on FF or as suitable to you.

If there is no merist in your version as per your counsel then there is NO point in wasting time altercations, arguments, litigation and spoliling the relations.

Kumar Doab (FIN)     04 December 2018

 

You may take help for any matter from, elders of your family, competent and experienced well wishers, seasoned PIP’s, helpgroups, community leaders, NGO’s, experienced colleagues, associations, religious scholars/leaders, influential persons, Employee’s/Trade union leaders, help groups for spouses (Husband/wife)  etc and  find a very able LOCAL counsel specializing in concerned filed of law e.g; Testamentary Succession/Civil  matters as in your case, and well versed with LOCAL applicable rules, precedence, latest judgments etc …. and worth his/her salt, can advise you after examining all case related docs, inputs,  evidences on record.

Obtain proper legal opinion in writing!

Avoid acting on your own on hearsay.

One should not fall for IT’s and entities loitering at online portals to allure unsuspecting querists. There are many threads on such instances at LCI also.

Online discussions are not substitute to in person discussions with a very able counsel of unshakable repute and integrity specializing in concerned field of law.

There are such very able counsels at each location.

Check for such counsels at LOCAL; Civil Courts, HC, SC,..

You can also try for FREE legal Aid from Legal aid center (DLSA) that is usually within LOCAL courts complex..preferably from a very able counsel specializing in Testamentary Succession/Civil  matters.

Your counsels  may opine that you can appear on 1st date, and obtain copies of petition etc to reply later ….and inform the court that you shall be engaging a counsel and appear thru your counsel….Or your counsel can appear and obtain copies of petition etc and reply later or your new counsel can appear for you.

Your counsels can advise after examining all docs/record/inputs pertaining to your matter and help you. You can also search threads on similar query in SEARCH option ON left Hand side of threads in Forum/Experts section. Having learnt a lesson, remember to consult beforehand for your matters or any matter about which you are not properly informed.

 

The FEE of all LOCAL counsels at all LOCATIONS is not high/unreasonable as mis-believed by many.

Many counsels even at State Capital/Metro towns  do not demand unreasonable high FEE.

IT is rather at online portals that unsuspecting querists are mislead as per many publications, by IT’s and Entities that pose as some Lawyer (actually LIAR) and flaunt/advertise firms that are not Law Firms (Actually LIAR’s Firms) to believe that LOCAL counsels are not knowledgeable..are incompetent.

In Reality the LOCAL counsels win cases in LOCAL courts at all LOCATIONS.

You can go thru/search the cases contested by any Lawyer at court website.

ask your counsel about regsitered family settlement deed.


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