Renuka Gupta ( Gender Researcher ) 31 August 2010
Here Truth is the monopoly of men! Whatever comes from women is false, false, false....Aishwarya, haven't you understood this grand truth!!
RG
Bhartiya No. 1 (Nationalist) 31 August 2010
Can't women have their space?
Although we say that society is changing, it is not entirely true. The conservative view about women has not changed. The other day, a friend narrated a scene he encountered on the beach. A girl was wearing a three-fourths pant and was playing in the water. He was commenting on and finding fault with her dressing style rather than accepting the fact that it was wrong to look at a woman that way.
I want to ask the men folk, why do you always look at women as a commodity? Isn’t women part of society?
If an eve-teasing incident occurs, it is ‘she' who is being blamed for the way she dresses and not ‘he' for the affront. If that was so, then why did that guy pass comments when I was in a salwar with dupatta? Even when a woman is in a saree, our traditional costume, vulgar comments are made. Some others say we won't pass comments when women are in a saree. Should we always drape ourselves in a saree to gain respect? Can't women have their space in society?
Don't judge a woman by her appearance. Judge her for what she is. Respect her talents, capabilities and, above all, her individuality. Give her a chance of choosing what she wants to be. Doesn't the Constitution guarantee that?
I do agree that the mindset of some women is similar to that of men. I have heard women criticising the dressing style of another woman. Men will continue to behave like that until and unless we tell them it is wrong and we change our views first. It is our duty to teach our sons to respect a woman for what she is. Why can't we try changing the views of our brothers?
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@ Ashutosh babu,
Unless there is "fire" there will not be any "water" around !
Your older sister Ranjana Kumari on National TV herself says that it is allowed for 2-3 % of women to play high class elite escorts service earning Rs. 40 K per half hour as part of empowering Indian women's space. Men are tolerating this 2-3 % and don't ask for more space now ! Clean yur own mess first then talk high speeches here.
Que. to you now: Have you written to Ranjana Kumari how dare she says that 2-3 % Indian women are allowed to peddle their bodies in the name of space ?
No, na so just shut up. I dare say this to you publically. Jerks like you are the biggest danger to women in India I repeat this once again in case you missed my 3 weeks ago same sentence posting.
Renuka Gupta ( Gender Researcher ) 01 September 2010
Mr. Ashutosh posting is not what he was talking, he has posted an article from the Hindu and given the source below his posting. I do not see anything wrong with the posting which appeared in the Hindu.
@ RG
Do something about these evils in society and tell public that you are doing something then only post. I have been doing a fraction of these things single handedly and I post what I am doing here (see some of my those posts) then I talk here, that is the difference between you with Ashutosh and my direct comment to him which you are justifying as his proxy whereas he should have replied directly to a comment made to him publically by me Understood.
Your goodself I think work for 's*x workers' now I ask you publically to place a Letter here ever written to Minsitery by you and ask these 80 K LCI members to write individually just like my call for post "A letter for child rights - natural guardians follow ups" and see the change in society. Bloody out of 80 K LCI members here if you can garner support of 8 K or even 800 ld. members your purpose of trying to change the image of s*x workers will makes waves in society that is how a small thought builds mass movement. Understood.
Simply quoting here a Hindu Newspaper Article asking men to go blind when they see panty - bra glad women on up market streets is not public justice There you all sh*t that it is women's liberty what they want to wear - agreed but there will not be any "smoke" where there is no "fire" understood. Some months back I think Shantiniketan and there is this college in Jaipur as well as one of the Delhi College put circulars on "girl student dress codes" You and Ashutosh probably kept quite and failed to voice your protest by letter campaign but here you have all the rights to ask men to go blind when they see waist dropping jeans clad girl on the street and then you give sh*t lecture on Indian Culture. What hypocracy you are researching RG and what hypocracy Ashutosh is vomiting in public platforms that is why I stand by what I directly wrote to Ashutosh??????????????.
Bhartiya No. 1 (Nationalist) 01 September 2010
@ “D”
The alphabet “D” has several “D” grade characters like “D for Dirty”, “D for Demon”, “D for Devil”, “D for Dracula” etc.
But the most appropriate character is “D for Dracula”. Just add two long teeth and some blood on the face of “D” The Dracula is ready. In Hindi it is analogous to “Shaitan Besharm Budda”. He is a kind of evil minded person who cannot see any better thing and always try to vitiate the peace of society till his last breath. I know to set this kind of wicked dirty old man on fire. I hope he would have understood.
Harasser Patterns
Sexual harassment is not about s*x--at the core of the problem is the abuse of power or authority,
though the perpetrator might try to convince the victim and him/herself that the behavior is about s*xual
or romantic interest. Some harassers, such as the Mother-father Figure, may even rationalize their
behavior as an intent to "help" the victim. The dynamics of s*xual harassment usually involves an
aggressor who holds a position of power over the victim. Still, cases of peer-to-peer harassment are
very common. Subordinates s*xually harassing superiors have also been reported. (Sexual
harassment by subordinates is sometimes called "s*xual hassle.")
Most s*xual harassment is perpetrated by men against women. However, there are also cases of
harassment by women against men, and of same s*x harassment perpetrated by either s*x. A small
percentage of men account for the majority of harassers, and many of these individuals victimize
several women over a period of time. (Bullying is as serious a problem as s*xual harassment, and it
can be just as damaging; interestingly, women account for the majority of workplace bullies and the
majority of bullying victims are also women.)
In addition to targeting subordinates, perpetrators of s*xual harassment may choose their victims
based on such characteristics as age, perceived passivity or lack of assertiveness, poor education or
naiveté, low self esteem, and other areas of vulnerability. However, this does not mean that individuals
with these characteristics cause the harassment or deserve to be harassed.
Harassers often test out new victims with minor violations of work, social, and interpersonal boundaries.
For example, they might tell s*xual jokes or make s*xual comments about their target, display
s*xual/erotic materials, or ask questions about one's s*x life; violate one's personal space with
touching, and maintain that it is meant to be nons*xual; make requests or demands that the potential
victim meet him/her outside of normal work hours or the designated workplace, or demand they meet
alone.
Harassers often dismiss or show a lack of regard for the feelings of their victims, even when assertive
attempts are made to put an end to the inappropriate behavior. When confronted about their
inappropriate behavior, perpetrators of s*xual harassment often act as if they are being victimized, or it
is the victim who is at fault. This type of manipulation can make the victim feel guilty about trying to set
limits or bringing a complaint against the harasser
For more info go to https://www.s*xualharassmentsupport.org/TypesOfHarassers.html
Renuka Gupta ( Gender Researcher ) 01 September 2010
I do not want to exchange words with you Mr. Arun. You are a bit too arrogant, and flount what you are doing. There are many many activists who are working silently, and do not blow the trumpets when work is done, because it is a team work they are doing. There are issues like organisational copy rights issues. Even if a piece of research and advocacy is done, it is not in an individual name that the findings appear.
Ye, what is wrong in posting a news article? I do not see anything wrong. To me some of his references are as good as some of yours. You have chosen the mode of working, and announcing, some may not have this mode of announcing. You blow your trumpet a bit bit too much?
You jump to conclusions because you are full of yourself. My research does not depend on you and does not need your approval, nor it would lose whatever humble value it has because you call it hypocrisy. I will not burn because of your irritation and anger, not I will get provoked into using a language which demeans others.
RG
RG
RG,
Exactly, that is what I am pointing out to you. You speak here on "Third Party" points of view. He (Ashutosh) is cabable to speak about himself to me in which ever language he chooses, if not then he will keep quite, why you poke your nose to me via him (proxy)?. You defend Sh Prabhakar when I make a take on his postings ? Why, you think he is incabale to speak about himself ! My takes to Sh Prabhakar are on legal points of view where you have no knowledge but you poke your nose again there also. Yes, I announce my works and my takes here First Hand to keep people like you talk First Hand not Third Party views with me if you choose to. I am everything as you say becuase you are saying it, now what you are here you speak about yourself ! You are here for "social bondings" not for a single legal discussions (other than your very first and second post after joining) which reflects from majority of your posts takes here (defending) always Third Parties as happens in social bonding websites. You making a take to Sh Assumi ji that also defending Sh Prabhkar whereas you don't even have any idea who is Sh Assumi and his strature here. I mean, you look at your postings man....
I ask you give me a reply on any legal point of your choice under family law you will run away and say discussing on them with me is worthless so why you reply to posts where I have replied or the once which I opened, just ignore them why poke your nose that also defending somebody else and they are not even your discussions (takes).
What provokation we talking here; are you are a baby then don't continue in legal forums where there are always for and against endless debates and no two legal professionals come to same conclusion which you can check with all your Third Party buddies if they know this much they will agree or else they will advise you to move graciously to social networking websites.
Now here will come Ashutosh defending you......see