The female brigade here is not any different.
Dr. MPS RAMANI Ph.D.[Tech.] (Scientist/Engineer) 23 March 2012
The female brigade here is not any different.
Ranee....... (NA) 23 March 2012
Originally posted by :Dr. MPS RAMANI Ph.D.[Tech] | ||
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The female brigade here is not any different. |
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PLEASE ELABORATE WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY.
Originally posted by :Ranee....... | ||
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Originally posted by :Dr. MPS RAMANI Ph.D.[Tech] " The female brigade here is not any different. " PLEASE ELABORATE WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY. |
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dadaji bore ho rahe hai didi.islie baar baar wo apni potiyo ko larai ke liye bula rahe hai....
chalo dadaji mai aapka man lagaane ki tarkeeb bataati hu.aap aaj shopping jao or mere llie khub saari chocolates,icecreams,frocks leke aao.bill dene se pahl;e waha se bhaag jaana.tab dukaandaar aapse larega...fir kya.aap bhi larna...aapka armaan pura ho jayega...
Shonee Kapoor (Legal Evangelist - TRIPAKSHA) 23 March 2012
Adv Chandu/ Roshini,
You don't believe someone because he won the court case. Then why believe someone just based on the allegations.
Court decision means that he is exonorated of all charges. He was to be presumed not guilty till proven otherwise, now that belief in his innocence should be strengthened not diminished.
Trust me, I am telling from experience, society presumes you guilty unless proven otherwise when there is a criminal case against you. I am telling the same from experience.
Dr. MPS RAMANI Ph.D.[Tech.] (Scientist/Engineer) 24 March 2012
I do not understand your language please.
Adv. Chandrasekhar (Advocate) 24 March 2012
Originally posted by :Adv. Chandu 09868332610 | ||
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My comments are not directed to Nisha Sharma's case. The accused may be innocent and rightly has been acquitted by the trial court. |
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Dear Mr. Shonee,
I have not thought you would add my name in your above post without going to my comment fully. I started my response with the statement quoted above. Then how can you say that I held some Sharma guilty even he was acquitted. As a matter of fact Nisha Sharma's case I never heard or followed. Even after the alleged judgment also I have not gone through it.
Again I say that the following statement does not belong to Nisha Sharma's case. Ya, one thing is sure. Just if the court acquits a person, I do not believe that he is innocent. When I was a school boy, I saw two hired goons mericilessly murdering two persons in the presence of my entire village. They were acquitted. In my legal practice, I see every day innocents are put behind the bars and guilty get free. The fault in our judicial system is that the mighty, even though they are corrupt and criminal, will get away and the innocent are put behind the bars as undertrails or convicted.
This may be happening even Section 498-A cases also. There are some innocent husbands and his relatives might be put behind bars and the real culprits of Section 498-A are roaming outside wth roaring laughter. The same thing is happening in Section 302, 307, 311 to 319, 354 , 363, 366, 376, 506, 509 of IPC etc. It is more prevalent in Prevention of Corruption Act. I have yet to see the real culprits are convicted under this Act. In PC Act cases, the VIP and most influential are put behind the bars for a few days to get the "wah... wah" from the public and later on left out and their cases willl not proceed even an inch.
Different context. Take the case of Ruchika Gilhotra suicide case. Mr. Rathore will be left out because the prosecution will definitely fail to show the connection between his ALLEGED molestation of 14 year girl and her rustication from the school and the humiliation she suffered ultimately forcing her to commit suicide. Mr. Rathore will be declared innocent. Do you believe him innocent? or do you believe that our criminal justice system failed to deliver justice to a 14 year young girl?
My comments have nothing to do with your personal case or with the case of Mr. Sharma. I have had our personal experiences and also day-to-day experiences in our profession to come to the opinion, which I hold.
I have seen in you a very reasonable and dedicated male rights' activist, which quality is lacking in other so called male reights' activists (in fact they are suffering from the dreaded disease of "female hatred") visiting on this forum and hence I thought I should give a detailed explanation.
I do not think you will represent the women beaters, dowry takers, husbands and their relatives who harass the wife for dowry, guilty of dowry deaths, molesters and women abusers. Similarly I will not represent the women who want to misuse of Section 498-A, but certainly represent the women who are victimis of Section 498-A and dowry deaths, victims of domestic violence.
warm regards.
Dr. MPS RAMANI Ph.D.[Tech.] (Scientist/Engineer) 24 March 2012
To Adv Chandu
Every statement acquires meaning with reference to the context under which it is made. The topic here was the acquittal of the Dalals, who were the accused for 9 long years. So notwithstanding his preamble, one gets the impression that his opinion (of Adv. Chandu) is that in cases similar to that of Nisha Sharma or at least in a majority of such cases, the male side is wrong and the female side is just. If he had given his opinion in a different context, it could have been considered as a treatise on the system of administration of justice in this country.
When Madam Roshni rushed to support his comments, Adv. Chandu accepted it by default. Madam Roshni also thought the same way as Shonee Kapur regarding what Advocate Chandu wrote. Naturally Shonee Kapur bracketed the two together while responding.
To say that he made the comments without even studying the Nisha Sharma case is even worse. The judge had formed an opinion in the case. Any advocate also can form his own opinion by studying the case and the judgment. Otherwise he should keep quiet.
Please note that Sam also has commented upon “Adv Chandu’s mentality”. Why ? Because he also thought the same way as Madam Roshni and Shonee Kapur.
Ranee....... (NA) 24 March 2012
Already 9 years over..if God keep us alive we will see higher court's judgement..till then no fighting please..because many times HC/SC is there to change lower courts decisions!
Dr. MPS RAMANI Ph.D.[Tech.] (Scientist/Engineer) 25 March 2012
Judgments are not the yard sticks. Judgment here is only incidental. Report of court proceedings would be more reliable than media reports.
Whenever a judgment comes to our attention we, in our mind, feel one is a good judgment or another is a bad judgment. Now a judgment has come let us discuss it on merits. If another judgment comes years hence on the same case we shall see then.
Only those who are directly involved have to worry about what the higher court will say.
Ranee....... (NA) 25 March 2012
Originally posted by :Sam | ||
" | @ Ranee ....... AND MANY JUDGEMENTS REMAINS THE SAME TOO ..... THERE MAY BE CHANCES THAT NEXT JUDGEMENT OF HIGHER COURT MAY GO 1 STEP AHEAD AND PEANAILSE THE ABUSERS !!! ... | " |
yes..so let's wait till the higher court's judgenment comes...till then belive the accitted as innocent..