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The Marriage Laws (Amendment) Bill, 2010

Page no : 8

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     12 August 2010

IF THE ABOVE OF YR POST ACCEPTED THEN CRUELTY TO WIFE AND MURDER OF WIFE DRASTICALLY DOWN.

BASIC REASON OF THE SO CALLED 'CRUELTY TO WIFE & HUSBAND' & ' MURDER BY ONE SPOUSE TO OTHER' - RESTED HERE.

IF YOU COMPLE TWO QUARLLING SPOUSES IN 'SAME HOUSEHOLD' WHAT MORE YOU CAN EXPECT?

THIS IS THE CORE POINT - WHICH NEED TO BE DISCUSSED.

 

AFTERALL  ALL OF THEM ARE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS OR SON AND DAUGHTERS, ABOVE ALL THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS.

 

Unbiased Advice (Advocate)     12 August 2010

Dear Arup ji,

With Due respect to your age going by the icon associated to your name, When I said "Men are Idiots" Obviously that include me too i cannot be odd man out, you sounds very sarcastic in expressing your post but i can take the comment with a smile because that is what maturity is!

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     12 August 2010

yes my icon is my photo only.

you are right. i understood  your humour, and replied humourously.


(Guest)

@ Unbiased _Advice, Advocate

Sir, here is an ode to "idiots" from we the mens rites activits..............


Title of the test: Tenali Rama passed the test but can respected experts?


Once Tenali Rama had to exhibit feats to be admitted as court buffoon.


He challenged - What I can do with closed eyes, can not be done with open eyes by your buffoon.


Challenge accepted; Tenali Rama hinted his aide to bring some chilie powder. Instantly the aide complied. He took two handful of powder. Facing up, he closed his eyes and put the powder on his closed eyes and then dusted out. Then it was the turn of the court buffoon to do the act with open eyes.


ROTFLOL


Respected experts wants to play Tenali Rama. Can they do is "men rites activits the idiots ask now ? 

sivani (engineer)     13 August 2010

For the knowledge of all, tormented_aatma was talking about this site. 

https://www.legalserviceindia.com/forum/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=35&TopicID=10123&PagePosition=1


(Guest)

@ Shivani,

Do you agree and I quote;


"Marriage is bad. Both men and women suffers in marriage. It is just that suffering of men are "Social Service" and suffering of women are "Social Problem". Society demands more of social service to reduce social problem. " 

Renuka Gupta ( Gender Researcher )     13 August 2010

Mr. Arun, It's not a social service, though the root cause of women's problems are entrenched values of patriarchal society and remain essentially systemic. For that matter  Maintenance word in itself is derogatory to women's dignity. It should be replaced with compensation as it is known as DV so that a sense of entitlement is conveyed rather than being at someone's mercy which the word maintenance indicate. 

RG

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     13 August 2010

"Marriage is bad.

- i fully agree with whole of your comments. it is true. it is fact. it is exact, as it - is, was,  & will be.

Renuka Gupta ( Gender Researcher )     13 August 2010

Correction to my posting: I mean as it is known in DV cases and not as it is known as DV. 

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     13 August 2010

It's not a social service, though the root cause of women's problems are entrenched values of patriarchal society and remain essentially systemic.

- yes, patriarchal society responsible for it. because women were deprived from the property on the basis of zender biasness against the woman.

but to neutralize the bad effect of 'zender biasness against the woman' present government doing excess. it was social problem for one side, but  now they (govt) make agrived both the sides ie male & female.

"Maintenance word in itself is derogatory to women's dignity" - Exactly.

" It should be replaced with compensation " - The word compensation not much suitable for it. why compensate? why for? what the damage done by a husband to his wife? or vice varsa.

I propose the word 'PRIVY PURSE' for it.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     13 August 2010

I want to know the views about the sections 15 (d) & (e) of the proposed bill.

view of mr suresh ram available here.

what says the faminist group?

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     13 August 2010

arun ji,

the word idot used humoursly, please do not take it seriously.

your story is good.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     13 August 2010

'

" It is just that suffering of men are "Social Service" and suffering of women are "Social Problem" "

 

- too much hard.

 

- some of us,may not consume.

 

- please re consider.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     13 August 2010

Arun ji - It is just that suffering of men are "Social Service" and suffering of women are "Social Problem".

Renuka ji - It's not a social service, though the root cause of women's problems are entrenched values of patriarchal society and remain essentially systemic.

you both are correct. There is a missing link which not touched.

The missing link is as bellow :- 

Arun ji's comments in the context of - present system of India, whereas renuka ji's comments in the context of - ancient system of india.

It is just like a logic that - AS YOUR GRAND FATHER KILLS MY GRAND FATHER 100 YEARS AGO, THEREFORE TODAY I SHALL KILL YOU.

is it a logic of a civilised society?

then today's men should send for - SATIDAHA !

Why today's husbands will be victimised in the name of maintenance? - where these (as renuka ji told) were done a long back by our society,  and not any individual. Therefore instead of burdain of maintenance by individual, - more money should be spend for ladies education and employment, for standing financially by their own.

Arup (UNEMPLOYED)     13 August 2010

People do not care where the said sposes doing s*x or in  the same household or not,

 

but they feel irretated when burdain of maintenance thrown upon them irrespective to husband or wife. THE QUESTION AUTOMATICALLY COMES -

why compensate?

why for?

what the damage done by a husband to his wife? or vice varsa.

 

MAINTENANCE BY ONE SPOUSE TO OTHER IS NOT A WISE DECISSION BY THE PARLIAMENT.


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