Absconded employee

It is possible.

If you want you can discuss the details of abscondment.

Act on suggestions made in the thread and resolve your matter.

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Originally posted by : Kumar Doab
	Hope you shall take it positively. If employee has sent notice of resignation/resignation by ordinary post, then attach a  copy and send by Redg. post. If employee has resigned then employee has not absconded.

What a vague and irrelevant post, when the Author says, he absconded, but Mr. Kumar Doab treats as if he resigned.. Further the author of the problem desires to withdraw PF, but Mr. Kumar Doab advises him to send a copy of resignation that too when absconded!

In all Mr. Kumar Doab made 13 vague and irrelevant posts against a single question as of his number playing game just to take false credit for 13 pieces of advice.

Originally posted by : Kumar Doab
	Employee should never abscond. Why would employer convince that employee has absconded? To allege soem misconduct and press penultimate charges with or without informing employee by effective mode of communication say;Redg. Post

What a funny, vague and irrelevant advice provided by Mr. Kumar Doab, when the author of the problem has asked for advice on “any way that i can apply for pf without contacting the employer,” but he has advised, “Employee should never abscond. Why would employer convince that employee has absconded?”

In all Mr. Kumar Doab made 13 vague and irrelevant posts against a single question as of his number playing game just to take false credit for 13 pieces of advice.

Originally posted by : Kumar Doab
	In majority of the PF offices the process seems to have been ON Line. PF number may suffice. Check with PRO/APFC/RPFC in nearest PF office

What a funny, vague and irrelevant advice provided by Mr. Kumar Doab, when the author of the problem has asked for advice on “any way that i can apply for pf without contacting the employer,” but instead of advising him about the way to claim, on one hand he has advised, “PF can be applied for withdrawl after separation from employer-employee relationship. Te abscondment is pressed to claim in internal records employee has not separated........................and deny attestation of PF forms” BUT on the other he has CONTRADICTORILY ADVISED, “In majority of the PF offices the process seems to have been ON Line. …… PF number may suffice. …… Check with PRO/APFC/RPFC in nearest PF office”

IN OTHERWORDS, Mr. Kumar Doab, HIMSELF, IS QUITE UNAWARE OF THE PROCEDURE TO CLAIM THE PF AFTER THE EMPLOYEE ABSCONDS FROM HIS EMPLOYMENT, BUT HE COULD NOT DESIST FROM PLAYING A NUMBER GAME BY MAKING 13 vague and irrelevant posts against a single question just to take false credit for 13 pieces of advice.
 

Originally posted by : Kumar Doab
	Employer can not decline to issue/inform PF number and has to supply PF a/c slips of each year to employee (that EPFO has been issuing for employee). Assuming that jurisdictional PF office is not ON Line, you can submit PF withdrawal forms to employer by Redg. Post and download POD from Indiapost website.  Declinature to attest PF forms is offence.

What a funny, vague and irrelevant advice provided by Mr. Kumar Doab, when the author of the problem has asked for advice on “any way that i can apply for pf WITHOUT CONTACTING THE EMPLOYER,” but instead of advising him about the way to claim WITHOUT CONTACTING THE EMPLOYER, he has advised, “Assuming that jurisdictional PF office is not ON Line, you can SUBMIT PF withdrawal forms TO EMPLOYER by Redg. Post and download POD from Indiapost website.” 
 

IN OTHERWORDS, Mr. Kumar Doab, HIMSELF, IS QUITE IGNORANT ABOUT THE PROCEDURE TO CLAIM WITHOUT CONTQACTING THE EMPLOYER, BUT HE STILL DID NOT AVOID PLAYING NUMBER GAME BY MAKING 13 vague and irrelevant posts against a single question just to take false credit for 13 pieces of advice.
 

Originally posted by : Kumar Doab
	Assuming that: Even if employee has absconded then employee looses lien on employment in 10 days as per standing orders and employer has to act in accordance with standing Orders and terminate employment. In your case if employer has termianted employment by termination order then internal records have to declare employee has separated by termination. So, Employer has to attest PF froms, in such case also.

What a funny, vague and irrelevant advice provided by Mr. Kumar Doab, when the author of the problem has asked for advice on “any way that i can apply for pf WITHOUT CONTACTING THE EMPLOYER,” but instead of advising him about the way to claim WITHOUT CONTACTING THE EMPLOYER, he AT HIS OWN MADE SO MANY PRESUMPTION ABOUT HIS TERMINATION, WITHOUT THE QUERIST HAVING MENTIONED ANY SUCH EVENT 
 

IN OTHERWORDS, Mr. Kumar Doab, HIMSELF, IS QUITE IGNORANT ABOUT THE PROCEDURE TO CLAIM WITHOUT CONTQACTING THE EMPLOYER, BUT HE STILL DID NOT AVOID PLAYING NUMBER GAME BY MAKING 13 vague and irrelevant posts against a single question just to take false credit for 13 pieces of advice.
 

Originally posted by : Kumar Doab
	Reiterating: Declinature to attest PF froms is offence. Resignation is personal matter and resigning is not misconduct.

What a funny, vague and irrelevant PRESUMPTIONS made by Mr. Kumar Doab? He should have referred relevant section of the Act under which he assumed, “Declinature to attest PF froms is offence” 
 

IN OTHERWORDS, Mr. Kumar Doab, HIMSELF, IS QUITE IGNORANT ABOUT THE PROCEDURE TO CLAIM WITHOUT CONTQACTING THE EMPLOYER, BUT HE STILL DID NOT AVOID PLAYING NUMBER GAME BY MAKING 13 vague and irrelevant posts against a single question just to take false credit for 13 pieces of advice.
 

Originally posted by : Kumar Doab
	LCI expert Mr. Sudhir Kumar is well versed with PF matters and have been helping querists on PF matters. If you wish you can seek his advise and insights .

By making this post, Mr. Kumar Doab has directly admitted that he he is not well versed with the PF matters. THAT IS PROVED BEYOND DOUBT, WHEN Mr. SUDHIR KUMAR stated, "absconded emplopyee cannot  be treated to have ceased to be in service and canot compell employer to submit his claim form."

So, a question arises, with what of his objective he made 13 vague and irrelevant posts?

IN OTHERWORDS, Mr. Kumar Doab, even being quite ignorant about the PF procedure, PLAYED ONLY a NUMBER GAME BY MAKING 13 vague and irrelevant posts against a single question just to take false credit for 13 pieces of advice.

Originally posted by : Pratheebh T M
	Thank you for your inputs. Is it possible to transfer it to new PF account #

WASTEFUL THANKS TO A FAKE EXPERT, Mr.Kumar Doab (UNREAL NAME) on your part, whereas he tried only to mislead you.

Originally posted by : Kumar Doab
	If you want you can discuss the details of abscondment.

What object will be served by discussion on abscondment, when the querist wanted only withdrawal of his PF amount?

Originally posted by : Kumar Doab
	Act on suggestions made in the thread and resolve your matter.

Act on suggestions as advised by Mr. Kumar Doab and you will be nowhere to find any way to claim your PF money.