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Clarity between gratuity eligibility service (5 or 4.8 yrs)?

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Harshal Mokashi (Accounts Executive)     04 May 2013

Dear Sir,

I had completed my 4 years and 295 days in the Organisation and left the organisation. While Claiming the Gratuutiy amount first company denied to pay the gratuity stating that you are not eligible as per company policy. Post that I had given the reference  of case law of Mettus Beardsell Ltd., Madrs Vs. RLC(C) 1998 LLR 1072(Mad)


But still company is denying the pay the gratuity amount stating the following statement

"Under the provisions of Gratuity Act (Act) and the firms policy, gratuity is payable only upon completion of continuous services for not less than 5 years. 

 The criteria of 240 days given in the section 2A (2) of the Act, is applied only when the services of the employees in not a continuous services as defined in Section 2A (1) of the Act. In your case the services was continuous without any interruption, therefore, the benefit of section 2A (2) does not apply to you.

 Reference can also be had to the judgement of Andhra Pradesh  High court in the case of P Raghavulu & Son vs. Addl Labour Court, Andhra Pradesh, Hyderabad and Another, 1985-1 LLN 612 where it has been held that if any employee has worked for  4 years 11 months and 10 days, he will not be eligible for gratuity"

Kindly advice

Harshal Mokashi (Accounts Executive)     04 May 2013

Dear Sir,

I had completed my 4 years and 295 days in the Organisation and left the organisation. While Claiming the Gratuutiy amount first company denied to pay the gratuity stating that you are not eligible as per company policy. Post that I had given the reference  of case law of Mettus Beardsell Ltd., Madrs Vs. RLC(C) 1998 LLR 1072(Mad)


But still company is denying the pay the gratuity amount stating the following statement

"Under the provisions of Gratuity Act (Act) and the firms policy, gratuity is payable only upon completion of continuous services for not less than 5 years. 

 The criteria of 240 days given in the section 2A (2) of the Act, is applied only when the services of the employees in not a continuous services as defined in Section 2A (1) of the Act. In your case the services was continuous without any interruption, therefore, the benefit of section 2A (2) does not apply to you.

 Reference can also be had to the judgement of Andhra Pradesh  High court in the case of P Raghavulu & Son vs. Addl Labour Court, Andhra Pradesh, Hyderabad and Another, 1985-1 LLN 612 where it has been held that if any employee has worked for  4 years 11 months and 10 days, he will not be eligible for gratuity"

Kindly advice

Harshal Mokashi (Accounts Executive)     04 May 2013

Dear Sir,

I had completed my 4 years and 295 days in the Organisation and left the organisation. While Claiming the Gratuutiy amount first company denied to pay the gratuity stating that you are not eligible as per company policy. Post that I had given the reference  of case law of Mettus Beardsell Ltd., Madrs Vs. RLC(C) 1998 LLR 1072(Mad)

But still company is denying the pay the gratuity. Attaching the statment received from them.

Kindly advice


Attached File : 515249073 company statement.docx downloaded: 241 times

Kumar Doab (FIN)     05 May 2013

 

In 5th year you have been in employment of the company for more than 240 days.

In this thread the descriptttion by SC and HC has been provided and thoroughly discussed.

 

Submit FormI to the company under proper acknowledgment and thereafter approach Controlling Authority.

 

 

In case of other employee company finally relented when the employee announced to initiate legal proceedings.

Discussion > Labour & Service Law > Gratuity > Query regarding gratuity eligibility

https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/Query-regarding-gratuity-eligibility-74941.asp#.UYYx76KAqWM

 

 

Company can not have its own policy on the payment of gratuity.

It is statutory benefit it has to provide to employee.       

 

Has the central Govt. exempted your company under Sec 5 of the Act? If yes ask this HR person to provide you the certified copy of the exemption.

You should also draw the attention of this HR person to word “WHOEVER” in :

Section: 9
Penalties.

(1) Whoever...........................

............ Provided that where the offence relates to non-payment of any gratuity payable under this Act, the employer shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than [36] [Six months but which may extend to two years] unless the court trying the offence, for reasons to be recorded by it in writing, is of opinion that a lesser term of imprisonment or the imposition 01; a fine would meet the ends of justice.

 

 

--------The HR person is not your employer. He is another employee in the company.

 

Submit FormI under proper acknowledgment to o/o appointing authority/MD by redg. post (avoid speed post/courier). After 10 days obtain POD (free of cost) and certified copy of the run sheet of post man (by paying Rs.10) from sub postmaster of PO from which redg. post was booked.

 

 

If the company does not pay gratuity, submit copy of FormI with POD of redg. post to Controlling Authority of Gratuity (which may be DLC in o/o Labor Commissioner at your location).

If company has not taken compulsory Insurance as per Sec4A and has not registered with Controlling Authority you (employee) are not at fault.

Company shall have to pay.

 

 

 

 If you are not able to resolve the matter in your favor on your own, approach your lawyer.

 

 

 

Loka Anilkumar (SE)     06 May 2013

 

Hi Sir,

I'm working in HP Company.I have joined in the company 29th dec 2008.Still i'm continuing in the company.

As per my company ploicy  "who have completed 4.8 years(4 years and 240 days) they are eligible for graduity"

ALready i ahve compled 4.5 years in thsi company.If i'm leaving from this company 29th august 2013(8th month) or september first week(i'l be completing around 250days icluding my notice period). Am i eligible for graduity? or this 8 months will be calculated as 240 days? or they will be excluding weekends(satday/sunday) from these 8 months?

or do i need to surve another 1 or 2 months extra till november?

Please suggest me?

 

Regards,

Anilkumar Loka

 

Kumar Doab (FIN)     06 May 2013

 

Notice period, weekly off, holidays are counted.

 

Go thru this thread carefully.

190 days in a year if company is operating on 5days/week and 240 days if otherwise.

 

Mention effective date of resignation/last day in office carefully in notice of resignation.

 

Snowill Sequeira (Sr. Software Engineer)     20 May 2013

Hi Sir,

I am currently serving notice period, my joining date was 02-06-2008 and my last working day is 21-05-2013. I would like to know whether i am eligible for getting gratuity.

Snowill Sequeira (Sr. Software Engineer)     20 May 2013

I have gone through the thread a lot of times and have even shown this forum to the HR still the HR is reluctant about providing any feedback and stalling.

Kumar Doab (FIN)     20 May 2013

 

 

You are eligible.

 

This HR person is not your employer. He is another employee in the company.

 

It appears he does not know how to read and can not count or he is adamant and recalcitrant.

 

Whatever it is you may approach the o/o appointing authority, MD, and submit FormI under proper acknowledgment.

 

Shift from verbal mode to written mode and let him or employer state whatever they want in writing.

 

You should also draw the attention of this HR person to word “WHOEVER” in :

Section: 9
Penalties.

(1) Whoever...........................

............ Provided that where the offence relates to non-payment of any gratuity payable under this Act, the employer shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than [36] [Six months but which may extend to two years] unless the court trying the offence, for reasons to be recorded by it in writing, is of opinion that a lesser term of imprisonment or the imposition 01; a fine would meet the ends of justice.

 

 This section is for such individuals only.

The authority to represent as per the Act is Controlling Authority of Gratuity: which may be DLC at your location.

 

 

Pradeep (Finance Manager)     30 May 2013

Hi

 

Kindly let me know the below employee for Gratuity eligibility

Date Of Joining Date of resigining
1-Aug-2008 30-Apr-2013

 

 

regards

Kiran

Kumar Doab (FIN)     31 May 2013

 

 

From period

DOJ:                            1-Aug-2008

Last day in office:         30-Apr-2013

 

If the employee has rendered uninterrupted service, employee should be eligible.

 

Refer to:

Section: 2A
Continuous service.

(2) (a) (i) (ii):

 

Count 4 years from DOJ.

In 5th year count 190/240 days………………….the date of completion of uninterrupted service of 190/240 days shall be your date of reference to which calculation is to be made…………..

The Act is clear.

 

 

 

Ashima (hr)     31 May 2013

Hi Sir,

I worked in travel agency which is pvt.ltd firm for 4yrs8mths and i applied for gratuity but the company is denying ,plz suggest wht to do am i eligilabe or not and even i worked in a continiutity period there was no break in service period, plz reply 

 

thanks 

Ashima

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Kumar Doab (FIN)     01 June 2013

KINDLY INITIATE A NEW THREAD ALWAYS. THIS THRAED HAS BECOME TOO LONG.

 

Section: 1 :Short title, extent, application and commencement.

 (3) It shall apply to­ -

 (b) every shop or establishment within the meaning of any law for the time being in force in relation to shops and establishments in a State, in which ten or more persons are employed, or were employed, on any day of the preceding twelve months;

Section: 2: Definitions.

 

(e) "employee" means any person (other than an apprentice) employed on wages, [3] [***] in any establishment…………………………

 

If you are eligible then you may submit FormI preferably thru redg. post to appointing authority, MD………….and acknowledgment/receipt by redg. post.

The company should disburse gratuity within one month.

If you are finding it difficult to drill sense into the heads, you may entrust the matter to your lawyer. A phone call/legal notice from your lawyer may drill sense into the heads.

 

You have the option of approaching Controlling Authority of Gratuity which may be DLC in local o/o Labor Commissioner………….

 

 

It has been made to get compulsory insurance.

Section: 4A: Compulsory insurance

Your company might have not taken it and thus it might have defaulted on this count.

 

If company has not obtained it shall have to pay from its own resources.

 

Employee may draw the attention of concerned HR personnel, o/o appointing authority, MD, Chairman.. etc to the word “WHOEVER” AS MENTIONED IN SECTION 9:

 

 

Section: 9
Penalties.

(1) Whoever, for the purpose of avoiding any payment to be made by himself under this Act……………. shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term……………….. twenty thousand rupees, or with both:

And

 

Section: 8:Recovery of gratuity. 

Harsha (Officer)     07 June 2013

Dear forum,

Seeking your guidence ..I am Harish from Gurgaon working with a Software MNC and query regarding Gratutity. As the resignation process is not initiated from my side and initiated automaticaly from company (admin) side. I am working with Multinational Company since 11 August 2008 and my last working day will be on 2 July 2013 as they deemed as my LWD

So i am just 38 days short to get complete 5 years in company..

As well as i have not resigned , this is due to retrenchment as the project is going over and they just not want the resource on the deck.

Please let me know Is gratuity amount will be payable on full and final settlement as i have just 38 days short to complete 5 yearst and neither resigned from my side and this will be due to retrenchment , even i have not taken a single leave in my last year tenure.

Thanks and waiting for response

Sripati Das (Integrator)     22 June 2013

Hi,

I was working continuously (5days working in a week) with a MNC from 5May2006 to 31st Jan 2011. As per my understanding from couple of discussions, I am elligible for the gratuity. I need it to be revalidated from experts like you.

Last couple of days back, I wrote an email to the company asking for the same. But got an written response that they will only pay gratuity to emplyees who complete 5years in their organization.

May I have your kind support to get exact idea whether I am elligbile for the gartuity or not, is there any clause for the employer based on which they will not pay employee gratuity?

If everything goes in favour of me means I can get my gratuity amount then let me know how can I claim and get the same amount from the company. My company was in Gurgaon and I stay in Delhi. Both seems are in NCR.

Please guide me to go in right direction.

Regards,

Sripati


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