Anand 02 November 2016
anil 02 November 2016
only court certified divorce is valid for Hindu, there is no if n but or else, so whatever you said is not going to help , again "Only Divorce given by Indian Court is valid with certified copy in your hand ,all other stuffs do not have meaning in terms of Law"
For your case there are number of other options available , do not panic and worry, go to local lawyer he may help you. even if not able to help , dragging of case and other stuffs always available , if any case filed on you then first try to get bail, most probabliy bail is going to denied if other person is having proof so check any good lawyer and also discuss with few friends who can help in bail bond , i think Rs 20000 + one person is required at the time of bail apart from lawyer fee and other expencese .
According to law you have done mistake and braked the law.
But according to life and situation you have done what was required at that time to live happy, your first wife if signed that doc then she is also guilty , you can fight on that, but quitions arises wheter you prepared that doc today or it is really prepared at that time. so you can face another case of forgery .
At last better avoid all issues and settle it with person who is creating problem , give some money at last they are also your kid and ex wife ,
I think issue is with EGO , nothing else so better to go for mediation with common person and settle down
Kumar Doab (FIN) 02 November 2016
>>> Is there any custom in your community that allows 2nd marriage?
Has this custom been accepted by courts of law?
Even If yes and even if NO:
"Indian courts recognize custom as law only if the custom is “ancient or immemorial” in origin; “reasonable in nature and continuous in use”, and “certain”. Courts interpret “ancient or immemorial" to mean that for a custom to be binding. it “must derive its force from the fact that by long usage it has obtained force of law”"
You may go thru the following and pick up relevant points:
>>> You are a government teacher.
As per service rules this is misconduct.
You can be suspended, tried and dismissed.
It is also offence.
You may go thru the following and pick up relevant points:
>>> Property:
Self Acquired Property : NO one has forced share in it. You can dispose it in your life time in anyone's favor by a valid deed say: WILL,Gift,Sale etc .
Ancestral Property: Wife ( legally wedded) is not coparcener in ancestral property.
Children ( fathered from legal , illegal marriage/relation) are coparcener in ancestral property.
>>> Children are not illegitimate.
Remember the famous N.D.Tiwari case.
>>> You have recived a caution/warning/threat.
Approach your counsel specializing in family matters ASAP.
Prepare your defense.
Even if some talks are going on.
Approach your counsel specializing in family matters ASAP.
Kumar Doab (FIN) 03 November 2016
While you are in employment; defend your employment.
If your source of livelihood is intact then you can maintain 2 wives and all children born thru their womb and fathered by you and manage all expenses, as usual................................... and new expenses that you may have to incur now including but not limited to; legalities,litigation(s)...............
While in employment you need to mind that you need to get acquitted if either of the wives,children, employer decide to proceed against you.
Hope you have the evidence of making monthly payments to 1st and legally wedded wife/children.........................2nd wife/children.
Does registrar of marriages register divorce?
Whatever it is, preferably by RTI obtain certified copies of docs signed by 1st and legally wedded wife and entries in register of registrar.
Kumar Doab (FIN) 03 November 2016
You may go thru the following and pick up relevant points:
Close the matter this time by a valid and recognised manner..........................................from court of law.
Retire peacefully.
Get your retiral benefits. Withdraw and close the a/c.
Get your pension in separate pension a/c.
Don't keep any other fund in pension a/c.
Anand 03 November 2016
my blindness is due to retinitis pigmentosa. no wife's name is registered in my service register. i gave my second wife's name to all government departments except for APGLI because i nominated it in 1992 the year in which i divorced. my first wife doesn't have the proofs of marriage except a wedding card. She has photos, but my face is cut off in them.
@ Gyan Darshan: Technology has developed. even blinds can do anything. I think people like you do not know. i asked for help. if you cannot suggesst me any any way, better do not try to bring my confidence down. I have not done any bad for anyone never thought to. even after leaving her, i said her that i would educate the children and she denied.
Kumar Doab (FIN) 03 November 2016
Look into def. of Family in service rules.
Choose relations mentioned under family in service rules.
Close the dispute.
anil 03 November 2016
please see below for your reference
1. only court can give divorce to hindu ( i think u is hindu ) , if divorce is not granted by Indian court, then you are not divorcee.
2. second marriage done , in case first legally wedded wife is present in this heaven then its crime.
3.since its long back , as i said just chill do not worry much. i think your age may be 50+ so only u taking tension for you. no one can do anything except first-second wife , not even your kids because if mea biwi razi kya karega kaazi.
4.if first or second wife going to court then also chill as at that time 1990's there was technical challenges so get proof is very difficult for both, from now onwards never talk or dicuss it over phone , in Family court call details and recording is valid without any further proof, Indian evidence Act is not having much releavnce as per my understanding, it depends on judge how he/she takes proof in terms of law and situation.
Anand 03 November 2016
sir, there is now an enquiry in my department on me regarding this issue. what should i answer them to get rid of these problems? Yes i am a hindu. i have no problem with my second wife and our kids.
Kumar Doab (FIN) 03 November 2016
It was deemed to happen.
I was surprised why you have not posted about it so far!
Approach a very able counsel specializing in Labor/Service matters also, and arrange for a very able 'Defense Assistant' to defend you in inquiry.
Would your 2nd wife and children depose and state under oath that they are not your wife/offsprings?
Assuming that they shall state so; what would be the action and reaction of your 1st wife and children?
What would be the report of IO in Dept. Inquiry, criminal complaint(s)?
I have posted sufficient for you to go thru.
You could have resolved the matter at the first instance.
Approach a very able counsel specializing in Family, and Labor/Service matters also, ASAP.
Originally posted by : Anand | ||
my blindness is due to retinitis pigmentosa. no wife's name is registered in my service register. i gave my second wife's name to all government departments except for APGLI because i nominated it in 1992 the year in which i divorced. my first wife doesn't have the proofs of marriage except a wedding card. She has photos, but my face is cut off in them. @ Gyan Darshan: Technology has developed. even blinds can do anything. I think people like you do not know. i asked for help. if you cannot suggesst me any any way, better do not try to bring my confidence down. I have not done any bad for anyone never thought to. even after leaving her, i said her that i would educate the children and she denied. |
Kumar Doab (FIN) 03 November 2016
Subsequent to last post of Mr. Gyan Prakash,
The thread may deemed as closed and resolved.
Nothing more to post.
Anand 03 November 2016
if you feel you have helped me in any little posible way... my gratitudes to you sir...
everyone who reads our posts shall know whose attitude has to be changed.. no offence.. thanks..