Checking pending mutation case of a property
Sufi
(Querist) 09 August 2015
This query is : Resolved
Helo sir/ madam,
I wanna buy a farm house in Delhi.
But I came to know that there is some issue with its mutation.
It is still pending.
I wanna make a check what is the issue.
The seller has assured me that there is no serious issue and I should give the bayana and due course before the date of final payment , everything will be cleared.
But I wanna everything before bayana.
The record is not available on-line, I have checked.
My questions---
1) Can I go myself to the DC/ SDM office and make a check?
Will the officials allow me to do so, as legally I am a nobody in this case?
2) Can anyone make a check in any pending court case?
Kindly reply, will be thankful.
P. Venu
(Expert) 09 August 2015
Why you are posting the same issue with selective facts? It appears you want to check the experts, than the alleged title to an imaginary land?
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Expert) 09 August 2015
there is a latin prahse that caveat emptor. it is mean the buyer should be aware.
so as of your stated fact you are aware about the issue and purchasing mean you will be at risk..
Rajendra K Goyal
(Expert) 09 August 2015
Either check the status yourself or take the help of your lawyer after mutation entered to confirm the fact.
Sufi
(Querist) 09 August 2015
I am thankful for the contributors.
But I wanna assert that Mr P.Venu, you are absolutely wrong.
You wrote,"Why you are posting the same issue with selective facts? It appears you want to check the experts, than the alleged title to an imaginary land?"
My reply--- Just recheck, both of my queries are different.
Now how come you know I am talking of an imaginary land?
Just give me a single evidence that I am talking of an imaginary land.
My dear sir, it is you who imagining that I am talking of an imaginary land.
And if someone makes a query, does this mean that the one should give exact property number,name of the seller buyer, dealer involved? Come on sir, you totally impractical.
And you say that I want to check the experts, great!
I want to check the expertise and that too regarding a particular issue, that is important for me, my dear sir.
But even if I want to check the expert, what is wrong on it?
By their expertise, I may hire someone from here, what is wrong in it?
Your response, totally impractical, irrational.
It would have been better if you have added some expertise of yours instead of this kinda frivolous allegation.
Sufi
(Querist) 09 August 2015
Btw, I donno , how the status got changed to resolved. Changing to open.
Dalip Singh
(Expert) 11 August 2015
Sir,
Firstly, get a copy of sale deed of the buyer a/w chain of title.
Secondly, go to the patwari of the concerned halqa and check whether the land is mutated in the name of buyer or not. It not, it is to be mutated in the name of buyer only then, buyer should enter into agreement with you.
Thirdly, get the index record checked from the local lawyer of the property in the office of concerned Sub Registrar from the date of purchase of land by the buyer till the date of agreement.
Fourthly, regarding the court case, it is somewhat difficult but the court case can be got searched from theconcerned District court in whose jurisdiction the land going to be purchased situates. The court case can also be got searched in Delhi High Court at New Delhi.
Sufi
(Querist) 11 August 2015
What is index record Dalip Singh ji?
Dr J C Vashista
(Expert) 11 August 2015
Find out revenue records maintained by area Patwari, girdawar, kanugo and tehisldar and then consult a local lawyer for proper professional advise, guidance and proceedings.
Prima facie it is an academic query.
Sufi
(Querist) 12 August 2015
Mr Vashishta, thnx for the reply but how do you know on earth that it is an academic query an d not a practical one?
Do you mean to say that I should have given exact property number, case number, owners' phone number, my phone number, address and many more details of the deal so that you may decide that it is a practical query and not an academic one?
Really so short sighted are you.
And by the way your reply has not added any thing here.
I have not asked what you replied for.
I have asked, being a third person, would they allow me to check the records of a pending case?
Dalip Singh
(Expert) 12 August 2015
When we get a sale deed executed in the office of Sub Registrar, the office of SR maintains a index on a daily basis. The index record from the office of SR can be inspected on making payment of Rs.100/- per year for a particular property. By inspecting the record we can find whether there is any further transaction/transfer from the date of purchase of the property by the buyer till the date of sale. I hope it would be clear now.
Sufi
(Querist) 12 August 2015
Thanks a lot Dalip Singh Ji
Sufi
(Querist) 12 August 2015
It showed resolved, somehow, I changed it to open.
T. Kalaiselvan, Advocate
(Expert) 15 August 2015
If you are pretty sure that the query is not the same to that of the one posited in the thread, what makes you to refer the same property in this query too. Though the clarification you have sought here may appear to be twisted to a different subject, the ultimate aim is about the purchase of the same property with said problem of mutation alone. Dont draw sarcastic remarks against the experts who spare their valuable time to answer the queries at free of cost even to the adamant people like you who argue without knowing what you talk about or understand what the experts meant by their opinions herein.
Sufi
(Querist) 15 August 2015
My deat T. Kalaisevan Advocate, I am really amazed what kind of expert you are?
I will take up your points one by one.
First about your valuable time----who forced you to answer?
If your time is so much precious and if you feel that answering here is meaning less, why do ever take any pain of replying? Settle an amount first, ask the questioner to pay that amount and then reply. Otherwise do not. And if you are replying or any one replying then certainly one is seeing some value in replying. Hope the point is clear.
Moreover how do you know, whose time is more valuable, yours or mine, how do you know?
Further it is not you, who are going to hire people like me, it is we, people like us who are gonna hire people like you. We are the employers, not you. We will interview you, see how much you know, how much logical, how much legal you are.
You are an employee, a would be employee. Not an employer, a would be employer, so it is your duty to reply the queries if you are interested in being employed.
May be the employer me or anyone else.
May be the employee you or anyone else.
But it should be like this only.
Sufi
(Querist) 15 August 2015
And now about "experts". My dear friends I have fought several court cases, I am into real estates and I know pretty well how much experts an expert is or may be.
Even Harish Salve, Ram JethMalani have fought and lost many cases, what to say of anyone else.
If the experts are so much expert, they would never lose a case.
It is the people like you, who feel, understand that law is only for advocates, no it is not, anyone can understand law. Law is not static, with a singe judgement, whole history changes. You too will have to be continuously studious, everyone.
People like you, advocates like you should be taught to respect common people.
Asking a question here does not mean to say yes sir, yes madam alone. No if someone replies, one should have courage enough to face the counter argument.
Now about my queries, how do you know how many properties I wanna buy or sell or do what?
And even if one property is involved, what is your stake in that property?
There may be one property or several properties what difference it makes if the questions are different?
Whether you should be concentrated on law points or on the number of properties? Of-course on law points. So whether there is one property, more than one property, who are you to concentrate upon all this? No body, my dear sir, no body, that is not arena.
I have already clarified still trying once more, you must have heard Bhagwad Geeta, do you know that so many people have written TEEKA ( Explanations) on Geeta? Everyone differently. My dear friend same story, same incident, same case may have so many diverse implications, so many questions, try to understand those finer points.
You are here to reply according to those points only, you are not supposed to be interested in the properties, you are not supposed to count whether one property is involved or more than one. You have no stake in any property.
Your stake should be only replying logically and legally and getting hired, if interested.
Sufi
(Querist) 15 August 2015
I am really thankful to all the participators whosoever have added any value to this thread especially to Mr. Dalip Singh and I am sorry for people like T. Kalaisevan Advocate and others, what kind of experts or advocate you people will prove it is very much clear from your replies. Must learn to respect the questioners. If you are advocates, we are your hirer, learn to behave my dear friends.
Rudrawar Narayanreddy
(Expert) 09 August 2015
