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Sunil (Querist) 25 October 2017 This query is : Resolved
I m removed from service for a misconduct of sharing information from bank can i claim noc from from bank as per letter i removed from service without debarred from future service..i m just 26 yearold it was a mistake which bank treatment as misconduct

I m not intrest to file pil in any court due to financial problm and not interested to go again in bank i can qualify ssc dept

And plz tell me what are the documents i have to required for new job except qualifications certificate

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Dr J C Vashista (Expert) 26 October 2017
Show the complete case file to a local lawyer practicing service matters for proper appreciation of facts and documents used by bank in disciplinary case instituted and decided against you wherein you have stated to have been awarded the punishment of "removal" from service.

Dr J C Vashista (Expert) 26 October 2017
Save your "thanks" for some impersonating expert (who is keen to earn/accumulate thanks/marks) if you do not like my response.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 26 October 2017
You can ask for any document in writing under proper acknowledgment.
Until you ask you won’t get any written reply.
If required; you can even adopt RTI route.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 26 October 2017
Your previous queries have been responded.

Rajendra K Goyal (Expert) 26 October 2017
Forget previous happening, try for new job.

Do not hide anything while applying where disclosure is required.

Sunil (Querist) 26 October 2017
It has been found that there are some fake evidence submitted againt me by inquiry officer because i have not taken the assistance of any union nor i defend myself because everyone told me it is a minor case ..but it was very shocking that they give me such a hatsh punishment...i want to start my life again i am basically belong from poor family and i cant afford lawyers fee and i have no knowledge how to file pil and all that i just believe that i can get a good job again if otheer dept have objection about my past.. because interview may b very difficult for me to face...

Sunil (Querist) 26 October 2017
Rajender k goyal..i appreciate ur reply...thanks to motivate me it is really a hard situation for me to accept this result but my colleague told me same as u told but there is only one fair and that is interview ..i belong from schedule cast i can easily qualify any exam in 2013 i was topper in ssc chsl and more than 5 exam passed and selected but i choose this job ..but now i feel it was my wrong decesion

Guest (Expert) 26 October 2017
Bad handshake by Mr. Kumar ADoab through his 2 vague and irrelevant posts made by him, as of playing merely a number game.

The querist asked for the nature of documents for his application for the new post through SSC, but he advised to ask for the documents in writing under proper acknowledgment and even through RTI, BUT NOT SUGGESTED WHICH DOCUMENTS TO SEEK AND FROM WHOM THROUGH RTI.

Guest (Expert) 26 October 2017
Also, a childish reply has been found on the part of Mr. Rajendra K Goyal, where he has not advised for any documents and from whom to get for the new job through SSC.

Guest (Expert) 26 October 2017
Mr. Sunil,

Opportunity lost cannot be regained. When you did not prefer to defend yourself, the charge automatically got proved in the absence of any defense by you.

About documents required for new job through SSC, no expert can be expected to be a representative of the SSC or the controller of the examination for different jobs. Every job notification by SSC contains a list of requisite documents to be attached with your application.

Sunil (Querist) 26 October 2017
And sir can i get no objection certificate from bank without mentioning any past detail of case.. my friends suggest me to take noc and join any other job as soon as possible..
yes i lost that opportunity and at that time even regional office tld me no need to woory about case u will not loose job ..but the result was totally opposite and gave the application to my bank for noc they told me they will gove me but now they are making excuses

Sunil (Querist) 26 October 2017
Sir i have applied for ssc cgl and i think i have qualified for preliminary exam. At that time i was in job of bank but now i m not i dont know what will they ask during interview... Please tell me can i legally get job if i told everything about my past experience if they ask during interview why i terminated ...this is the only question which make me worries and i m very tensed...please clear can i legally get any job if i told everything about my past that i was terminated due to misconduct..

Kumar Doab (Expert) 26 October 2017
In this thread also IT=@PSD in all of IT's whopping 3 posts (10th,11th,12th) have not done anything other than usual habitual abuse, nuisance................

IT=@PSD poses as cribbing child, cribbing kid...............

Kumar Doab (Expert) 26 October 2017
IT's=@PSD's next post will be everything posted by all Experts in all threads is Literature........

IT's=@PSD's did you memorize the old literature?

Do that It is your Homework for tomorrow!

Sunil (Querist) 26 October 2017
Kumar please reply which i m Asking .

Guest (Expert) 26 October 2017
Mr. Sunil,

You cannot expect any real advice from Mr. Kumar Doab, a fake expert with unreal name, and ID. He is famous in making multiples of vague posts only by playing a number game in a race to falsely reach the top of the experts ladder.

Even now, you would have noticed, he made 2 absolutely vague and irrelevant posts like a person of an unsound mind. Only such type of people confuse the querists with their wrong and misleading advice.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 26 October 2017
Sunil,

Other than IT=@PSD everyone has replied in all threads..........

Don't contemplate to conceal anything in any document that you have to submit and sign.

Kumar Doab (Expert) 26 October 2017
IT=@PSD,

IT is last time you for you to memorize that you will not comment on anyone,anyone's post.

IT will remain paglait,sifira,dalaal in IT's khud,private fiefdom, and inflict thud on IT as much IT wants and as many times IT want.

GO away and get lost, permanently.

Sunil (Querist) 26 October 2017
Ok i will not hide anything but my real question is what are the documents that i should take from bank which is required for my new job..like NOC , EXPERIENCE CERTIFICATE OR SERVICE CERTIFICATE .NO DUE CERTIFICATE ETC..AND PLEASE REPLY THE GENUNE ANSWER IF ANYONE CAN...

Guest (Expert) 26 October 2017
2 More vague and irrelevant posts have been made by Mr. Kumar Doab, like a person of absolutely unsound mind.

Sunil (Querist) 26 October 2017
I just want to know what are the documents i can claim from bank so that i can easily get new govt job...plz tell me as real answe so thay i will assure that i can get a new govt job and stard doing my hard work with full pace

Sunil (Querist) 26 October 2017
Jigyasu sir plz tell me i m under huge stress i am not able to concentrate on my education ..mujha darr lagta ha j na ho k meri j mehnat b bekar jaya..as per letter i can do future job but legally it is true or just a written term i cant afford any lawyer this is the only way i can get answer with experts so any one if know..please advice me wht should i do

Guest (Expert) 26 October 2017
Removal from service is not a bar to any future Government job.

Rajendra K Goyal (Expert) 27 October 2017
Author,
You have not mentioned whether the Bank was public sector or private. What type of information was leaked?

Rajendra K Goyal (Expert) 27 October 2017
It was your mistake that you did not defended the case properly. Submit appeal to the appellate authority immediately. It may help to wash black spot on you.

Do not accept the decision as such.

For appeal you are not required to hire a lawyer. Contact some experienced person in departmental inquiry of your Bank / other Bank, he would help in preparing appeal.

Rajendra K Goyal (Expert) 27 October 2017
So far as NOC from Bank is concerned, it is doubtful Bank would issue any NOC which would be of much help to you in your new employment. It would provide actual position / negative feedback.

Relieving letter with no dues certificate Bank may issue.

Rajendra K Goyal (Expert) 27 October 2017
JIGYASU - Legal analyst

Very easy to comment on other experts.

It is your moto and habit.

Nothing else you can contribute.

Should try to contribute if possible / have capacity.

What any expert is gaining by providing free and volunteer service on this plateform.

You can not digest the same and just try to gain cheap popularity.

Your single moto is to comment and target experts of the site rather to contribute.

Your one point program seem to be that the forum should be closed.

Rajendra K Goyal (Expert) 27 October 2017
JIGYASU - Legal analyst

In your profile you have mentioned:

Quote "
As a Legal Analyst, I may be knowing much more than the most well qualified and experienced lawyers/ Experts, but still I claim myself to be a lifelong JIGYASU (learner). : Unqote"
http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/experts_profile.asp?member_id=389278

In your various posts you have well shown your knowledge of law by commenting / taunting other experts and nothing else.

It is hard and difficult to find any of your advice providing legal advice to author.

Your problem seem to be the presence of other experts on the forum, when in your views you have legal knowledge more than those.

Knowledge is recognized by sharing / advising / guiding etc. and not by commenting / taunting others.

In fact your moto is to comment and target experts of the site rather to contribute.

It seems your only motive is to force other experts say good bye to this forum.

Sunil (Querist) 27 October 2017
Its a govt bank .and i have shared the account no of my and my father on the advice of my asst manager in which he credit some amount when i enquire ed it has been found thats is subsidy amont of gas .asst manager adviced me to keep mum there is nothing wrong gave that credit ed amount to him i gave that amount to him but after some time when the thing came in the light of manager he complaint against me and asst manager ..i was totally unaware what will going to happed i have not takn the help of any union ont participated in any inquirey everyone told me dont think its a simple case but now i get such a shoking result.. i will file rti but fil of all i need a job for livelihood..that y i m asking for documents required for new job like service certificate ..or any thing i have applied for other govt jobs and i have mentioned about my experience of govt bank but i still not have any service certificate or noc from bank..thats y please tell me my rights related with documents for new job

Sunil (Querist) 27 October 2017
Today i got a call from my manager he told me that they are asking to close ur credit limit of 50000 then they will provide NOC AND other documents...i replied that please give me in writing that they will prove NOC and other certificates after submitting my dues.my pf nd gratuity is still pending with 59 days previlage leave..

Sunil (Querist) 27 October 2017
Sir while applying new job i have see three boxes
1- currently working
2 . Debared from any court of law
3 experience if any..

Please tell me what should i fill in these 1 1..boxex currently working no
And what is court of law is it desciplinary authority

Guest (Expert) 27 October 2017
@ Rajendra K Goyal,

Instead of making 5 vague posts as a number game by you, like Mr. Kumar Doab, it would have been better had you replied the queries of the querist, Mr. Sunil.

About other's contribution, you would have been able to see had you removed your black goggle, while you have repeated my reply only to some extent in one of your post. You would well have known that besides my contribution, I have analysed your talent, which you have tried to reveal through your vague and irrelevant posts.

Even now, if you are a real expert on service laws, you are welcome to respond adequately to the latest 6 posts of the querist, Mr. Sunil. Take the challenge to provide him the purposeful solution, otherwise learn what ecactly is the service law to add to your negligible knowledge, if you really have any, instead of making posts merely by hit & trial method..

Sunil (Querist) 27 October 2017
Please reply last the questions what should i fill in these boxex .
1 currently in job
2 debarred by any court of law
3 experience if any..i
I m filling application for rbi asst job

Rajendra K Goyal (Expert) 27 October 2017
From the given facts you may give as under:
1- currently working Reply: No
2 . Debared from any court of law Reply: No
3 experience if any.. Reply: yes.

Sunil (Querist) 27 October 2017
Thank u so much.. i was waiting for this reply....done sir...one more thing i dont get any experience certificate nor they give me any service certificate i submitted a written application for NOC .WILL they provide me later or there is no need of such documents.lie experience certificate or service certificate

Sunil (Querist) 27 October 2017
Thank u so much.. i was waiting for this reply....done sir...one more thing i dont get any experience certificate nor they give me any service certificate i submitted a written application for NOC .WILL they provide me later or there is no need of such documents.like experience certificate or service certificate

Sunil (Querist) 01 November 2017
During apply i filled i have experience now there is one more box reason for leaving job..what should i write in this box .

Sunil (Querist) 02 November 2017
Please reply

Sunil (Querist) 04 November 2017
Should i mention that i m removed from service

Sunil (Querist) 09 November 2017
Plz reply should i mention it that i m removed during application..i am again qualied for bank exam as well as ssc cgl pre examination now the time to qualify the maina but at that time i was in service i have not mentioned any of my charge during application for bank examination

Kumar Doab (Expert) 30 November 2017
You have been thoroughly advised.
You must not conceal any information per any column in job application and in any other document.
In other threads you have posted that you have been provided with relieving letter.

Sunil (Querist) 11 June 2018
I applied for clerk job and in that job application mentioning experience is not mandatory ( box) so i skipped my experience as i dont have any experience letter from bank now i got selection and called for documents verification ..now i have only one question should i told them my pran nunber as it is still active.. within a year i got new job and this job is far better from my old job..

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