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Rahul
(Querist) 11 June 2018
This query is : Resolved
BEING THE VICTIM
BY CHOICE/MISTAKE/FORCE/LAW
Nobody in the whole world wants to become a victim by their own choice.
Mistake can be big or it can be small. Each mistakes have their own consequences But mistake is a mistake which nobody wanted to commit intentionally.Everyone wants to lead a good life without any problem.
circumstances and mostly the lack of experience is the reason that forcibly pushes human beings towards mistake.
Courts are known to serve justice to the citizens by the judges.
The judicial system should not become a support system for the people's who are bullying the innocents.
Financiers are players, they know the law, as they used it several times according to them.
if everything has to go according to the law book then what is the need of judges. It can be done with the help of computers.
The basic difference between a machine and a human being is feeling.
Why innocents are scared of the word COURT. this is a word which should give confidence to the innocent people's for justice.
Many personalities are scared to talk against the judicial. No matter they receive justice or not but most of the people's say � I have full faith in the judiciary system� but that's only in front of media.
The Constitution of India starts with
It's WE THE PEOPLE OF INDIA
That clearly States, Nothing is bigger than the people's of India.
And importantly JUDICIARY IS NOT ABOVE THE PEOPLES OF INDIA.
Why in Faridabad the antisocial elements using COURTS as there last step of bullying innocents.
Antisocial elements - financiers
Innocents. -youngsters
Steps of financiers to bully the innocent
1- searching the youngsters can be influenced easily by some bad habits of playing pool table on bets or like guys show interest in cricket betting. Etc. And capable of paying a high-interest rate
2- use mediators to convey the message and tempting young guns to grab easy loan without guarantee.
3- lending money at high interest against blank signed cheques and blank signed papers.
4- enforce per day penalties in case of the single day delay in interest by youngsters.
5- threatening and abusing innocents on phone to increase the rate of interest.
6- even after getting 300-400% of the principal amount in interest still showing no mercy to the youngsters.
7- breaking bones of innocents if they approach the police.
LAST AND FINAL STEP
8- filling blank cheques with a double triple of the principal amount or if the innocent have any property on his name then the blank signed papers will convert in agreement to sell then in last they will send COURT NOTICE to youngsters.
One mistake of signing a blank cheque and blank paper by the youngsters become a threat to their life.
One mistake puts everything on the line.
the antisocial elements who can't even step inside the court without their 10-12 boys group.
. It's not wrong to make a group but it shows the intention especially
When everyone has the history of FIRs in different police stations.
Can they innocent enough that a decent guy can make them fool and they feel helpless enough to knock the door of court.
One mistake proves to be NO WAY OUT for the innocents
In Faridabad court honorable judge sunil Kumar Ji starts the proceeding by saying �vakil sahab paiso ki teyaari karwao client ki nahi toh andar jaana padega� at this point the defendant's lost 50% of the case .if it has to go one sided way then what is the need of THE TRIAL??
What is the way out for the victim???
If victim denies paying interest then financiers play their power game
If victim breaks all contacts then finances send musclemen to their home.
If victim family ask financiers for settlement then they demand four times of the principal amount
If victim lodge complains in police then financiers musclemen break their bones. And one of the guy from the group surrenders himself.
If the police take action. Which is very very rare then financiers sends LEGAL NOTICE to the victim.
Once the legal notice served to the victim Then police say their favourite dialogue �WE CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS AS THE MATTER IS IN COURT. �
Is one mistake is too big, that financiers bunch of mistakes stands nowhere in the eye of law???
What about mistakes of the culprits -
1. Giving loan with the bad intentions
2. Forcing youth to work as their bounded labour for high interest and penalties
3. Taking documents with the sense of fraud.
4. Not showing the high-interest income in their ITR
5. Not paying INCOME TAX of high-interest income
6. Threatening and abusing on phone
7. Making a team of musclemens and put them on standby to fight
8. Forcibly dragging innocents to their office
9. Mental torture
10. Physical torture
11. Creating bad scenes outside the victim home
12. Using blank cheque without the consent of account holder.
13. Taking blank pages signature for formality purpose and using the signatures and claim properties.
14. Transforming blank paper into an agreement to sell
15. Transforming blank paper into cash receipt.
16. Filling a false court case.
Surely court is not liable for anybody's mistake. but can court make culprit liable for their mistakes???
Or court agenda is to go according to the law books.
If it is enough to get a bounced cheque in the hand, to claim the money by saying it FRIENDLY LOAN. Then there is no use of earning money by the hard way, everyone will try to grab the cheques to file the case
what should a defendant can do to prove his/her innocence or that's it for the defendant? Or One mistake is much heavier than sixteen mistakes.
Because it doesn't matter to court weather
A) Complainant has the capacity to give a loan of a certain amount.
B) Complainant relations are enough strong with defendant to lend friendly loan.
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C) Complainant mode of payment is by cash.
D) Complainant is financially strong enough to give 3-4-5-6-7 and more lacs rupees as a friendly loan but didn't file ITR.
E) A occward point to say but still, the point is why most of the defendant are youngsters
Honourable judges treated as gods by the citizens. They have a big power which comes with a big responsibility.
The court should keep this in mind that if there is a huge gap between the buyer and seller in agreement to sell cases then judges should be more careful with their decision.
Because
Most of the youngsters of 25-30 yrs are not capable enough to.buy a property. It's the parents who purchased the property on their son or daughter name.
Normally in Indian families, the right to sell the property never handed to the youngsters of 25-26-27-28 yrs of age.
Yes they are adult enough to the take decisions, but again its in the book of law.
But when defendant deny the execution of sale agreement then the court must keep this point and call defendant's parents for statements and observe the reality..
NO DOUBT ON THE CAPABILITY OF OUR HONORABLE JUDGES BUT SOME QUESTIONS WHICH NEED TO BE ANSWERS BY HONORABLE JUDGES ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE
QUESTION NUMBER ONE
SIGNING BLANK CHEQUES AND BLANK PAPERS DUE TO LACK OF EXPERIENCE AND INFLUENCE ARE ENOUGH TO BECOME A VICTIM???
QUESTION NUMBER TWO
HOW CAN A INNOCENT PROVE HIS INNOCENSE IN A CHEQUE BOUNCING CASE
QUESTION NUMBER THREE
HOW CAN A INNOCENT PROVE HIS INNOCENSE IN A FALSE UNREGISTERED AGREEMENT TO SELL CASE????
EVERY UNREGISTERED FINANCER IS CONFIDENT ENOUGH THAT HE CAN EASILY GRAB THREE TO FOUR TIMES OF PRINCIPAL AMOUNT WITH THE HELP OF COURT, SO THEY LEND MONEY EASILY TO PEOPLES AGAINST BLANK SIGNED DOCUMENTS.
THEY ARE CONFIDENT ENOUGH THAT COURT ARE NOT CAPABLE ENOUGH TO EXTRACT THE TRUTH OF THE CASE.
WHAT IS THE WAY OUT
IN BOUNCE CHEQUE. FRAUD CASE
IN UNREGISTERED AGREEMENT OF SELL
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Guest
(Expert) 11 June 2018
Ignorance of Law Can not be an Excuse
Guest
(Expert) 11 June 2018
If at all there is any genuine problem discuss with local advocate or seek the help of Free Legal Aid Forums available in the concerned Court.
Dr J C Vashista
(Expert) 11 June 2018
No time for such a long story.
Be specific and brief.
Asgher Mahdi
(Expert) 11 June 2018
Why cannot you consult a lawyer having such big queries? This platform is to help and assists the gullible people not to test or showoff legal knowledge.
Rahul
(Querist) 11 June 2018
I will tell you, sir, what is ignorance of the law is.
And I know honourable JC Ji you have no time to read this no wonder this is the perfect attitude of an Indian.
People will get time when their own face this. Right sir???????
People lending 10 lac rs on behalf of the friendly loan and didn't pay income tax. Isn't it ignorance a law. Middle-class man doing cash deals of crore and crores of rs and showing nothing in ITR isn't it ignorance of the law.
I am a victim so it's obvious I already consulted with many lawyers. Let me rectify this that I AM JUST A VICTIM.
but it's not about me. It's about thousands of innocent facing this issue. Should I take everyone with me to local lawyers?
Or nobody has guts to understand the issue and raise voice against it.
Mahdi Ji sir if you can't raise your voice then at least don't demoralise others
sir you can't help anyone without showing your knowledge and I.am not big enough to take your test but sir you are not big enough that peoples need to test you.
Rajkumar Ji, I agree to go for a free local advice. I Took advises but sir the decisions are going very much against the truth.
The peoples facing this issue needs a serious help and they need help now.
What should I do to raise my voice in favour of innocents?
Guest
(Expert) 11 June 2018
Mr. Rahul.
If you don't mind, nobody is under obligation to obey your command "MUST READ."
However, had you presented your problem in nut shell you could have received appropriate advice from several experts, but you started counting on the defects of law, like writing a full length thesis and by giving examples not even remotely related to your own problem.
One thing you should bear in mind that law helps those, who bring EVIDENCE BASED FACTS, not mere statements. Law takes cognizance of the recorded proof, unless you prove your mistakes to have been made under coercion or pressure by some one.
My views on your questions are as follows:
1. You were required to prove that you signed blank cheques under pressure, not at your sweet will. If not, nobody can save you from being a victim due to your own mistakes.
2. Law does not recognise innocence. Law recogniises only the reason of bouncing of cheque If cheque is issued, liability to get that honoured rests solely on the drawer of the cheque.
3. Again question of innocence has been raised by you, which I replied. Further, if agreement signed by you, that cannot be treated as false agreement, unless proved by appropriate evidence that the same was got signed under pressure.
The only way out is to produce some effective elements of proof to prove the agreement and cheques issued under pressure or coercion. You may consult some very experience lawyer to tackle your problem, how to collect appropriate evidence in your favour to win the case.
Rahul
(Querist) 11 June 2018
I don't know that how much you surf the internet. There is a site YouTube in case if you don't know, it's the biggest video site. In that site people's upload videos and many people's Video heading include the word MUST WATCH. so it doesn't mean they are threatening everybody or forcing to watch the video. The trend is changing sir. Nowadays everyone wants attention. The heading MUST READ is just to grab attention. it doesn't mean that I am ordering. If headline makes you think so weird and negative so how can you take the content positively.
And it's not only about me. So it's irrelevant saying �your problem�.
The thing is it's so easy to give advice by saying evidence-based facts but no one is doing the hard part by telling the possible evidence for innocents in the cases.
Sir I am not here to fight. I really wants to save my fellow brothers from financier abuse. You guys are experienced I just want the possible evidences in the given situation .
Ms.Usha Kapoor
(Expert) 12 June 2018
Don't blame Judiciary Especially higher Judiciary. They are giving landmark Judgments on many Key issues. So much progress we have made in many social and political even economic is because of Judiciary.
Guest
(Expert) 12 June 2018
When you are critical towards one and all, only God can help you, not any expert here or even your own lawyer. Your MUST READ got attention and see, what responses you could get for your essay type story.
Mere attention grabbing does not warrant any help, if you fill the web space with totally irrelevant and vague material. The whole of the real issue gets disappeared in your extraordinarily lengthy extraneous matter. So far as videos at YouTube are concerned, they are liked or disliked, but no help provided. Similar to YouTube, your story has been disliked by one and all. That should be an eyeopener for you.
Anyway, you may continue to grab attention, but without any expectation for help. The experts are not here just to get their time wasted, but for the help of the people facing problem, but are able to make fact based brief description of the real problem, not like your philosophical story telling style.
Rahul
(Querist) 12 June 2018
it's not wrong to raise voice if something is wrong. There is nothing like perfection in the whole universe. the judiciary is a part of it. And if someone hit me with a hammer definitely I will raise my voice. That's a different thing that the VICTIM voice would be louder than normal people's. And it's not about blaming the judiciary, yes lower court judiciary decisions in Faridabad Are very much questionable apart from all this the main concern is what is the possible way outs in the given certain cases to relief the innocents.. Nobody is positive enough to extract a social cause concern from the so-called ESSAY TYPE STORY. If everyone is smart enough to support all the actions of the judiciary then I am ready to take everybody on and to explain the parts written by me against the judiciary. No one is questioning on the particular points of the content. Is judiciary is above the people's of India?? You guys are experienced and educated enough to give way out views but I think everyone HERE is against giving the FREE ADVICE
Guest
(Expert) 12 June 2018
When you admit "there is nothing like perfection," everything can be questionable, at first your mistakes and thereafter judgments also. Whatever theory you want to present before the experts here, you could have presented before the judge of the case. Even if you explain here, neither the experts of LCI have any authority to impose their view point on the judge of the case, nor the judge is going to listen in the absence of any solid facts supported by evidence, not only theory, as you wanted to present.
So, nobody is going to debar you from raising your voice in anyway you like. But unless your vision is clear, except sympathy, you can't expect any practical help, particularly manipulative methods from the experts. That only can be expected from your own lawyer. So, if your previous lawyer was unable to present your case effectively, better discuss the issues with some other local lawyer, if he assures you of any help.
The irony is, you can't refrain from passing terse comments against one and all experts, but still you want them to help you by following your commands, as if they are your paid servants. Rest assured, if you can't understand their viewpoint about posting your problem in nutshell and to the point, nobody is going to read your "MUST READ" philosophical story.
Since you trust YouTube more than the legal experts, why do not post your problem at YouTube for help.