Rti act clarification
shyam lal
(Querist) 24 August 2019
This query is : Resolved
Simple query
-01/- after the death of a person can a RTI application be filled to the concerned department PIO seeking information about the deceased YES or NO.
02/- can the information be denied by the PIO on the basis of objection raised oral/.written by the close relative or friend of the deceased citing third party clause.
Isaac Gabriel
(Expert) 24 August 2019
The information with the public authority should be given under section 6(1) of the RTIAct.
shyam lal
(Querist) 24 August 2019
@isaaac Gabrial, regards your answer does not answer my specific questions, is there a specificreply
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 25 August 2019
"after the death of a person can a RTI application be filled to the concerned department PIO seeking information about the deceased YES or NO"
This is a commanding tone on a site giving free information.
The facts are not given
who sought information
what information is sought
under what clause the information is denied.
when was the denial.
shyam lal
(Querist) 25 August 2019
@sudhir kumar for get the facts answer what has been asked in simple English
read the question /query again till it makes sense to you
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 25 August 2019
this is a free advisory forum.
any expert has discretion not to reply even if he has the reply.
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 25 August 2019
anyone having any sympathy with you shall not be attempting any reply without facts.
shyam lal
(Querist) 25 August 2019
@sudhir kumar ,with due regards when you do not know the subject ,please do not try to be joker of all trades, i did not put this query to hear from you ram katha--by the way do you know how many versions of ramayana exists?
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 26 August 2019
I have sound knowledge of RTI matters.
First I should know facts.
If I know facts then it may not take me more than 30 seconds to reply
Then you should be polite with the forum.[even if you consult a lawyer after paying his charges still he will want you to be polite]
Otherwise no charity form me.
Dr J C Vashista
(Expert) 26 August 2019
No facts provided in the question paper Mr. Shyam Lal.
It would be better to consult a local prudent lawyer if there is some dispute/ query/ question for analyses, guidance and proceeding.
shyam lal
(Querist) 18 September 2019
MR. SUDHIR KUMAR EXPERT -as desired one has to be polite to receive charity .since you have SOUND knowledge of RTI act-my polite submission is does section 2(f) attract the third party clause? be very clear when you answer as i have to reply to a RTI query
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 18 September 2019
Still using a commanding tone like boss uses to subordinate "be very clear....."
Anyway you seem to be a govt officer dealing with RTI
2(f) and third party clause are not related. 2(f) only defines information.
for third party clause read section 2(n), 7(7), 8(1)(d) , 11, 19(2) &19(4)
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 18 September 2019
If you give facts of the cases you may find yourself nearer to the solution.
shyam lal
(Querist) 19 September 2019
expert sudhir kumar. point taken , now you want facts to answer the question ,here it is --under which section of RTI act one can obtain the copy of sanctioned residential plan of a dead person from the respective concerned department?
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 19 September 2019
Now I have understood that you are a govt official dealing with RTI application without knowlege of RTI Act.
You cannot be blamed for this. You have to do a job assigned.
Please read the whole section 8 of RTI Act as to under which clause it can be refused.
Please also see whether any mechanism existed for the citizen to take this document before promulgation of RTI Act.
shyam lal
(Querist) 19 September 2019
dear Sudhir kumar WHO RECOGNIZED you as a expert-God for give him-
you have understood one word only guv official.---
i only pray no more experts are born in future like you who can not answer simple questions--please keep your charity to your self.
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 19 September 2019
without you disclosing the facts none can come to understand the aactual propblem faced by you.
I have got full solution of problem given by you but you were conditionally and partially police so I hinted only the portion of the statute attracted in the case as per facts given by you.
Guest
(Expert) 23 October 2019
The Information could be obtained by the Applicant if he has any Public Interest behind it.
Guest
(Expert) 23 October 2019
Public interest like any suspicion in the death etc
Guest
(Expert) 23 October 2019
Mr.Sudhir Kumar Deputy Director -- First Please Do not insult the innocent Querist
Guest
(Expert) 23 October 2019
Mr.Sudhir Kumar - Deputy Director -- Please Do not comment us as Free Forum . This is an Honorary Forum to help the Needy Querist
Guest
(Expert) 23 October 2019
Mr.Sudhir Kumar -- Deputy Director - This is not the place for you to utter any thing for your Time Pass
Guest
(Expert) 23 October 2019
Mr. Sudhir Kumar -- Deputy Director what Right you have to comment or question about the back ground or the employment of the innocent querist
Guest
(Expert) 23 October 2019
Mr.Sudhir Kumar your profiles mentions you only as Deputy Director and not as an Learned Advocate and this is not the place for you to take advantage and insult the innocent Querist as Time Pass
Guest
(Expert) 23 October 2019
Section 8 (1) of RTI act clearly speaks about the Query raised by the Querist
