Interse seniority
Mourougappane
(Querist) 24 December 2013
This query is : Resolved
Dear Sir:
1. Jr. Assts. promoted as Assts. in 1989.
2. Typists promoted as Jr. Grade Stenographer in 1990.
3. For promotion of Sr. Asst/Office Manager, the RR is as follows: Assistants and Jr. Grade Stenographers are feeder cadres for promotion of Sr. Asst. Recruitment rule is: 50% from Assts. and 25% from Jr. Grade Stenographers and 25% from Direct Recruitment and the post is Selection Post.
4. Promotion was given for more than 10 staff members as Sr. Asst./Office Manager in 1997 from the Assts. and Jr. Grade Stenographers as per the above 50%:25% ratio.
5. DPC also recommended the above ratio only.
6. Based on the recommendations of the DPC, Tentative seniority was issued on 9.6.1999 as per the ratio and seniority has been fixed as per the ratio.
7. Objections raised by the Assts. and revised seniority has been issued on 29.11.2000 by moving of file only and approval of Executive Council and also informed further communications will not be entertained in this regard. Further, matter has not been placed before the Review DPC. Review DPC has only the power to revise the seniority.
8. Assts. (1989) has been placed first and Jr. Grade stenographers (1990) has been placed next to them – It is not as per the ratio.
9. Objections has not been raised by the Jr. Grade Stenographers and insisted the administration in person to change the seniority as per the ratio.
10. Then, promotion has been given to all the Sr. Assts./Office Managers in 2007 as Section Officer.
11. Tentative seniority has been issued to the Section Officers on 09.06.2010.
12. Objections raised by the Section Officers (Jr. Grade Steno-Sr. Assts.) on 19.06.2010.
13. administration issued a letter on 13.07.2010 and informed that the seniority in the cadre of Section Officer is based on the seniority in the feeder cadre of Office Manager/Sr. Asst.
14. Again objection raised by the Section Officers (Jr.Grade Steno-Sr. Assts) on 28.09.2010.
15. Matter has been placed before the Grievances Redressal Committee on 31.05.2011 and committee informed that there is no need to reopen the settled issue after 10 years and the same was intimated on 03.11.2011.
16. Again a representation has been sent to the administration on 09.12.2011 for reconsideration of seniority.
17. The file was moved. Former Finance Officer and Internal Audit Officers has strongly recommended to revise the seniority as per the ratio of 50:25.
18. Kindly clarify the rule position of interse seniority, please.
I am submitting the Govt. of India clarification is as follows:
How seniority of a promotee
officer is determined in cases
where more than one feeder
grade is prescribed for
promotion to the higher grade
and specific quotas are given?
Rule position:In such cases, the officer in each
grade assess a fit by the
Departmental Promotion
Committee shall be interpolated in
the ratio prescribed in each grade
in the Recruitment Rules for the
post, for the purpose of
determination of seniority(principle
of rota quota)
Sir/Madam: If you want any further details, please contact: P. Mourougappane, Pondicherry (9486521338)or drop the phone no and I will contact.
Sudhir Kumar, Advocate
(Expert) 24 December 2013
YOU SAID
If you want any clarification, please contact: P. Mourougappane, Pondicherry (9486521338)
FORUM NEED NOT CONTACT ON THE CONTRARY HE SHOULD CONTACT THE FORUM
Rajendra K Goyal
(Expert) 24 December 2013
No particular problem raised.
Read your service Rules or contact your Employees Association representatives.

Guest
(Expert) 24 December 2013
Dear Mourougappane,
Is it your personal case or you are asking as a section officer, how to settle the dispute case of seniority between the Assts. and Jr. Grade Stenographers promoted as Sr. Assistants/ Managers?
You have also to mention, provisions of RRs for the posts of Sr. Assistants/ Managers, as 50% or 25% quota of two cadres has no relevance for the purpose of deciding interse seniority of the incumbents of two cadres on the selection post as against what actually has been provided in the RRs of the selection posts.
Raj Kumar Makkad
(Expert) 24 December 2013
I do agree with the wise advice of ld. DhingraG.
Mourougappane
(Querist) 24 December 2013
Department of Personnel & Training
Establishment (D)
SENIORITY : FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
How seniority of a promotee
officer is determined in cases
where more than one feeder
grade is prescribed for
promotion to the higher grade
and specific quotas are given?
In such cases, the officer in each
grade assess a fit by the
Departmental Promotion
Committee shall be interpolated in
the ratio prescribed in each grade
in the Recruitment Rules for the
post, for the purpose of
determination of seniority(principle
of rota quota).

Guest
(Expert) 24 December 2013
Mr Mourougappane,
Don't try to read the DOPT order between the line. Complete order with reference to the previously existing orders on seniority have to be interpreted in its right perspective.
Anyway, you have not replied my earlier query.
Mourougappane
(Querist) 24 December 2013
Thanks Sir,
I will submit the complete order, at the earliest.
Thanks for your advise.
R.K Nanda
(Expert) 25 December 2013
consult local lawyer.
V R SHROFF
(Expert) 25 December 2013
contact local lawyer.