Members's misuse of ANONYMUS OPTION
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 01 August 2011
This query is : Resolved
Good morning seniors and my friends. First my thanks to all for your participations for our forum's grow up. Our admin giving such good option to post any query as ANONYMUS mode. I think its only for secure the author from avoid some unwanted problems. But some of our advocate friends misusing that option. For example if they have any doubt or don't know any provision mean they may ask and clear it openly. But they are thinking to post their name as prestige issue. Here no one known everything. Day by day we are learning only. But whats their shame to ask their doubts openly? Why we have to answer to them. More over somebody's querys will be look like teacher's question towards students. And some laymans also doing the same,. If they hide their self with reason mean its ok. Otherwise? Please seniors and my friends just avoid them.. And Take necessary steps to bring this issue to admin. Thank you.
Advocate. Arunagiri
(Expert) 01 August 2011
"More over somebody's querys will be look like teacher's question towards students."
I appreciate this comment.
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 01 August 2011
Thank you sir. About me its nothing sir. Cos am a little boy. But while our senior members replying for that query with genuinely i feel something sir.
Guest
(Expert) 01 August 2011
Dear Tom,
I appreciate your move. The practice is not only in asking questions, but also in replying queries by some perons pretending to be experts. You must also have observed that a few of the experts try to say anything in support of unethical practices and professional misconduct of professionals by hiding their identity by using their anonymous or pseudonymous names, so that nobody should know who they are in the guise of such pseudonymous names.
R.Ramachandran
(Expert) 01 August 2011
The fault lies with the Administration. Administration should not permit the "Anonymous Option" at all. At the time of registration one can put any name as he wishes (there is no check whether one is putting one's own name - and so be it) but the Administration captures the email-id for its own sake, which is not being made public by the Administration, which is absolutely correct.
Thus, so long as the personal details like email-id etc., are being protected, place and address of the person concerned are being protected, there is absolutely no need for permitting the "Anonymous" option at all, either for raising a query or for answering a query.
Unfortunately, it has become the responsibility of the members of the Forum to urge the Administration to take note of certain things and to rectify instead of the Administration doing anything of its own. In fact, it was because of the repeated requests by the members of this Forum, that the Administration ultimately came out and put some restrictions to avoid a mono syllable answers like "Yes I agree".
The Administration has to be proactive, immediately remove the "Anonymous" option; watch the posts and immediately remove those which are bordering on "abuse".
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 01 August 2011
Mr ramchandran you are also annonymous in the defination of Dingra who is dishing out opinion on every matter on the earth and no check on him on his abusive outbursts .
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 01 August 2011
Thank seniors.. Am agreed with your every words. Same time my opinion about expert's answer as YES AM AGREE mean, its will not for just earning one point. But its will give some more strength to the earlier expert's words.. Its will help to the autho to become clear mind. Same time if any juniors like me commit any mistake by false answer mean as a senior advocate every experts may guide the person to correct their mistake.
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 01 August 2011
Yes sir. I can understand your emotion. But please tell me whats the mean for C.E.O? I thought its may be his office name. Is anything different mean?
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 01 August 2011
I think dhingra group is may be his firm name, c.e.o mean chief executive officer. Am i wrong mr. Skj sir? Please mr.dhingra sir. Here an allegation charged against you. Just clear it. Please we having lot of respect on you. Just please come and clear the allegation against you.
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 01 August 2011
Sorry for saying this mr.skj sir. Is any personal dispute between yours? Why hurting that senior member. Sorry for sir. I feel that i gave a chance you to hurt him. This query is going in wrong way sir. Please stop hurting him on this query.
Devajyoti Barman
(Expert) 01 August 2011
As far as the teacher's question is concerned I have stopped responding such queries long back.
Advocate. Arunagiri
(Expert) 01 August 2011
Mr.SKJ Advocate,
Your comments on Mr.Dhingra seems to be emotional and showing some personal rift.
You say that he is not qualified. How do you know that.
Mr.Dhingra,
I request you sir, to answer Mr.SKJ.
H.M.Patnaik
(Expert) 02 August 2011
Dear friends,
Here I feel, the matter is stretched aimlessly.Its'always good to behave
properly in a interactive social site
like this.I extend my heartfelt thanx to all participants & Admin for gifting us a scope to brush our knowledge gained through years' of practice and Share our knowledge with the really needy persons
in such a convenient manner.
Have a great day.
Guest
(Expert) 02 August 2011
Dear JSKN,
I wonder, what you mean and infer about the definition of anonymous or pseudonymous and how you call Mr. Ramachandran as anonymous, while Mr. Ramachandran has given his full name and has also been giving his full name along with all his replies?
Guest
(Expert) 02 August 2011
Dear Experts,
About Mr. SKJ's comments, you better go through the posts at the following links and you will understand the whole background:
1)
http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/laywer-harrasing-and-threatening-me-and-my-wife-trying-to-extract-money-un-nessary--210496.asp
2)
http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/DIRECTORY-OF-EXPERTS-PRACTITIONERS-212686.asp
In fact, his post is in retalliation to my remarks against his friend's support for unethical practice by some legal professional, which all of you can see by opening the 1st link.
Here also, he is raising a finger against me, but has refused to reveal his own identity even on asking several times. He is not ready to reveal his full name and also not ready to show his photograph. He raises a finger on others, whose not only full name but also photograph is open for all to see on this site.
He claims to be an expert, while he wrongly interprets the words "Professional Misconduct" as police action, "Consultants" as companies. He also had not come up with his legal definition of "CEO" along with section of the relevant Act even on asking repeatedly on both the threads. He also advised me to use "International Consultant" as a PREFIX and failed to identify groups I represent from my own profile, which is open to all. He doesn't seem to know even the meaning of prefix. IF HIS INTERPRETATIONS ARE OF SUCH TYPE, I WONDER IF HE MAY NOT EVEN INTERPRET AN ADVOCATE, AS CHIEF JUSTICE ALSO AT ANY TIME.
He forgets that the experts are registered on this site only on approval by the administration, not by self or after getting personal approval of SKJ. If I have been registered as an expert by the administration, the adminsitration must have checked my particulars and whether I fulfilled its prescribed criteria or not. I AM SURE ADMINSTRATION IS NOT OBLIGED TO SEEK HIS PERSONAL APPROVAL TO LIST OR NOT TO LIST ANY PERSON AS AN EXPERT.
If he considers me as fake and boasting he is open to challenge me in a court of law, not by creating ruckus on this site. he must know that fake and boasting people are those, who always try to hide their identity, like him, NOT me, who has even posted his photograph along with full name. Had I been fake and boasting I would have avoided to give my name even, like him, what to say of photograph.
NOW, I HOPE, THE MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. SKJ TO REVEAL HIS COMPLETE IDENTITY ALONG WITH HIS PHOTOGRAPH.
BUT, I AM SURE, HE WOULD NEVER COME FORWARD WITH HIS IDENTITY EVEN ON REQUEST BY SEVERAL MEMBERS FOR THE REASONS BEST KNOWN TO HIM.
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 02 August 2011
Mr.skj, never i won't hurt any laymans. Most of My peoples are very innocent about laws. Then how i will hurt them. Just go through that query. That query didn't asked by a layman. Thats posted by an advocate. Again am telling the advocate may be cleared that doubt with experts openly. Whats the need to post that as anonymus. I can't tolerate that thing. So i scold him.
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 02 August 2011
Mr.skj kindly see my earlier query replys to laymans. Apart from this from most of the peoples contacting me by phone or mail.. Still they are keeping in touch with me.
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 02 August 2011
One more thing mr.skj. You stating that this is one of the social network. Am requesting you that don't come here with that thought. Its my forum for my professionalist. If any one try to misuse here mean i will ask it. You may be one of the pillar to this. But i want to be one of the root of this forum. I will. Thats all.
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 02 August 2011
Mr.skj now mr.dhingra answered to your allegatio. Now your turn. You have to answer him. For your information, am only brought him here to answer you. Come on sir.
Guest
(Expert) 02 August 2011
JSKN,
Have you also not been able to identify from my profile the groups I represent?
You have also not replied my previous question, how do you consider Mr. Ramachandran as anonymous, when his name appears wery well in his profile and replies?
Also, please clarify from where did you get my difinition of the term "anonymous" and from where did you get that?
You may also please point out where did I use abusive language, as you used the words "abusive outbursts" against me?
Can you intimate me your full name on this page? Also, please clarify whether the picture posted here along with "JSKN" is your real photograph or you have also adopted some graphics like SKJ?
Guest
(Expert) 03 August 2011
Dear Experts,
NOW A GREAT SURPRISE FOR THE EXPERTS from which they themselves would be able to decide where both the fellows stand.
BOTH "your Advocate" AND "SKJ" HAVE CHANGED ONE SET OF THEIR FAKE LABLES TO ANOTHER SET OF FAKE LABLES INSTEAD OF COMING FORWARD WITH THEIR TRUE IDENTITY, EVEN ON REPEATED REQUESTS BY ME AND OTHERS.
"YOUR ADVOCATE" is now "JSKN" adopting a graphic, as his mascot, from which any body can be duped as if that is the photo of an advovate.
Similarly, "SKJ" is now "SKJADVT-SARDARSENA" who has even changed his graphic picture from a "Fist Waving Wrestler" to some funny graphic of some old bearded and capped long hair man, as his mascot.
YOU MAY THEREFORE LIKE TO ASK THEM WHY THEY FELT THE NEED TO SWITCH OVER FROM ONE FAKE LABLE TO ANOTHER FAKE LABLE?
The reason for change of their lables seems to be quite obvious. Both of them had greatly exposed themselves in their previous posts at the threads on the links given above. Since on their own instigation, I had to indicate both the links on this page also, they tried to befool the community members, so that people may not try to recognize them for their own exposed hapless positions available on the previous two pages, where they exhibited their own shortcomings and untrustworthy position. SINCE THEY WERE EXPOSED ON THIS VERY PAGE ALSO THROUGH THEIR OWN STATEMENTS, THEY PREFERRED TO CHANGE THEIR USER ID AS WELL AS GRAPHIC SIGNS, SO THAT THEY MAY TRY TO CHEAT MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM TO HIDE THEIR EARLIER FAULTS, SHORTCOMINGS & UNTRUSTWORTHY POSITIONS. But, probably they fail to understand that any change in profile is depicted even on the past data of a member.
Both of them tried to prove me in all the three links, as an imposter, a fraud and fake, etc. SO, NOW EXPERTS AND OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS THEMSELVES CAN VERY WELL UNDERSTAND WHO ARE TRYING TO CHEAT, WHO ARE ACTING WITH FAKE IDENTITY, WHO ARE PLAYING FRAUD ON THE COMMUNITY, AND WHO ARE TRYING TO BECOME IMPOSTER.
They themselves have proved that what they had been trying to lable others out of vendetta, they themselves fall within that category.
Against their replies on the previously mentioned links, I clearly warned that with each of their post they would be exposing themselves only. They never gave any reply to any of my questions on both the referred pages. Here also they have avoided to give any clarification on any of my points. So, while they earlier proved to be unable to read properly (reading consultants as companies & professional misconduct as police action, etc.), do not also seem to be able to interpret words properly, unable to give legal definition of any term, like CEO, etc., they have now proved that they do not know meanings of some common words also, like anonymous, as one of them treat Mr. Ramachandran also as anonymous person, while he uses full name on this forum. YOUR ADVOCATE, now "JSKN" has also proved that he cannot even spell some common words properly, as he spelt the word "definition" as "definAtion."
But both "Your Advocate" (now JSKN) and "SKJ" (now Skjadvt-sardarsena) still claim to be an expert.
Advocate. Arunagiri
(Expert) 03 August 2011
Dear Friends Mr.SKJ, Mr.Dhingra,
We are all seasoned people and we claim ourselves as experts. Let us not give any chance for emotional clash.
All of us can have doubts about the credibility of the person. You can openly ask and get clarified.
If we have comments on any body let us post it in a professional way, instead of hurting anybody.
I request you, in the interest of this site, please stop the exchange of emotional feelings.
I request the administrator:-
The administrator can accept anybody as expert, who is not giving their real name and photo. But, if the expert claims himself as an advocate, let him disclose his real name and photo. this will avoid confusions and will increase the credibility.
Let us treat this query closed.
Thanking you.
sumant singh
(Expert) 03 August 2011
Mr.Dhingra & Mr. skj please continue it seems interesting...
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 03 August 2011
Thanks for supporting mr.arunagiri. I think now mr. skj should realised his mistake.
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 03 August 2011
Mr.sumant ji, 2 of our friends are fighting here. But you are enjoying ah. Just let we compromise them sir.
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 03 August 2011
Dear seniors, friends this query getting closed now. Its started smoothly but in middle of the journey its took diversion. However we have to take steps for members misuse of this site.. My thanks to our senior members mr.arunagir, mr.ramachandran, mr.barman,. And mr.skj as a good human, you may be spoke with mr.dhingra directly. Why trying to show your attitude here. Thats may be fine to all. Bye to all.
RAJU O.F.,
(Expert) 05 August 2011
I used to ignore if the query is emanating from an anonimous or apparent anonimous, even if I knew the answer. And I do not wish to answer any questions unknown to me.
Guest
(Expert) 09 August 2011
Dear Experts,
Thanks for your advice.
BUT, you may now see another development where the ex-YOUR ADVOCATE alias JSKN is now JSDN, having switched over to his 3rd fake identity within just a week's time. He changed his lable just two days back and is now posting his answers with his newly acquired fake identity of JSDN.
YOU CAN NOW WELL UNDERSTAND, WHO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO ACT AS IMPOSTERS AND FRAUDS, AS THEY ARE UNABLE TO JUSTIFY THEIR OWN POSITION OF BEING GENUINE EXPERTS.
Further, you may also like to review the position, if such fake identity holders would have tried to falsely jeopardise your own positions, I am sure you would also have definitely liked to defend your positions.
Similary, I have justifiedly tried to defend my position also. Any one, whosoever, like "YOUR ADVOCATE alias JSKN alias JSDN" or SKJ alias SKJADV-SARDAESENA," cannot digest my opinions or advice, they are quite free not to act upon any of my opinion/advice or even should desist to take my opinion/advice in future also. I am contented with the site administration and my friends (including some advocates/lawyers), who consider me as expert in some important matters.
Anyway, my thanks to all the participants who tried to bear with me.
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 09 August 2011
Yes at least annymous people do not declare theselves fake CEO of some non existant group and blaming advocate to be black mailers without knowing from the advocate what is the real story.
Guest
(Expert) 11 August 2011
Your Advocate, alias JSKN, alias JSDN,
I knew you would not be able to resist yourself and would appear some day to expose more of yourself.
When you fail to reply my queries, you are unable to give legal definition of CEO, you interpret the terms wrongly, you do not know the meaning of simple terms like "anonymous," you declare not only me but also Mr. Ramachandran, as anonymous when both of us come with our real names with every post, while you yourself do not come forward with your real name, you are not ready to reveal your real identity and continue to change even your fake identity very frequesntly, how some one can know the real story of the advocate like you? I can understand that you may be just a disgruntled and irritated person, when you are not able to find solution to the problem created by yourself by getting yourself exposed every time by yourself only.
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 11 August 2011
Please be frank and bold enough to tell us what is your group where you are CEO,or it all bogus.
M/s. Y-not legal services
(Querist) 11 August 2011
mr.jsdn and mr.dhingra i request you to stop your fight on my query.. already i resolved my query, then whats the need to reply here.. please stop it.
Guest
(Expert) 11 August 2011
Your Advocate, alias JSKN, alias JSDN,
What about you? Do you not feel frank and bold enough to reveal your real identity, which you are trying to hide and have even been switching over from one fake ID to another very frequently?
Don't you have courage enough to reply to my queries, as none of which has been answered so far on any of the three threads?
Interestingly, you are asking me to be frank and bold where I am appearing with my real identity. On the other hand, YOU ARE NOT showing any frankness and boldness to show your real identity and to answer any of my questions.
However, by posting your fresh query "tell us what is your group," you have yourself proved beyond doubt your another shortcoming that even as an expert you are not able to read even a very small text properly. Your problem is that You try to read just between the lines, which is quite harmful at least for the career of a practising lawyer, if you really are. The name of my group is clearly indicated along side my name, which you failed to read. If you are not able to read any text properly that is not my fault.
