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Divya (nil)     29 May 2013

even i pity what people are going thru in name of 498A...all cases are similar..Big contacts, they influence lawyers of both sides, they manage police, they have all political connections...

 

But my advice to all is WAKE UP....File cases against all girls & their families.....Why we shudnt waste their time & get facts before the court.....Even i intend to file anti-cases of perjury, cheating, proving that shez an adultress, damages money etc,......

We should be ready for a fight of 2-3 yrs & local police never supports us. Only courts can help if we fight. Infact people should go thru the blogspot of 498; but equally we should put time, money, courage to fight back & not sit crossed with our hands...."HUMAN DIGNITY" is a constitutional right has to be proved with actions & not just by words.....IF people dont fight cases like Domestic Vilence, False Divorce & Maintenance Cases, false 498a cases will continue..............and people like such cheap girls and their families will only suck our blood & mental peace as a shortcut for money.Leave the guy & find other temp options & cycle will go on & on............................

498_final stage (Professional)     29 May 2013

I agree with you Divya. At least I have decided to fight and hit them really really hard. I know what I have faced after these cases.  You can even fight after getting a divorce. You can keep on fighting till you kids have grown up from your second marriage. This is India they give you ample opportunity to fight. lol

These legalised prostitutes as a side effect of biased Indian laws. Someday Indian legal system has to realize what have they done.

I am looking for a confident and trustworthy connection in Kanpur, so that I can bang this Shaadi Gang soon. Any one here to help me for this?

ANEESH TRIVEDI (ADVOCATE) (Advocate)     31 May 2013

@Hellow to divya and 498_victim

i M also sailing on the same boat of yours , but as divya suggest dont take back 498 a girl is 100% true , i did that mistake in humanity but it does create any harm as i was cautious, now the in present my 498A is going on when she came back and living with me at that time also the case was running but at that time i didnot understand her intention she is living with me and also contesting the case now , i also going to teach lesson to such peopke so please do guide me for counter cases but i heard that if one can not get completely out or aquitted rrom 498A till then he can not file any counter case , please specify if any case is there then mention here so i go for it.

thanks in advance

498_final stage (Professional)     31 May 2013

Hi Aneesh,

This is surprizing that you took the girl back when you were slapped with 498a. What happened to your mediation. I am sure there is an option of not taking her back, even if you do then all cases must get resolved. There is always a writen statement which is to be given by the girl that she is taking her case back.

Consult your lawyer. I dont understand how two people can live in a room while they are fighting in the court. Is it a some kind of Joke????

ANEESH TRIVEDI (ADVOCATE) (Advocate)     31 May 2013

@498a_Victim

sir this happen either you say this was my mistake or i was fool , actallly i thought there was no fight between us, it is only because of ego and her childish attitude and her father did all this she also said me this that why i forgive her, i not pressed her to withdraw case becuase i was in winning position still i am! but it takeing time the result of my forgiveness toher is that her father died becuse of guilty it was his suspecious death , indirectly it is also my win also she having two  younger sister and mother i thought if i m became cruel to her then what will happen to others, as i m alone i can survive in any condition but here i was wrong , in doing huminity . and pity over her i was digging well for myself i realised it later but anyway now all is in our hand.

but sure it is real joke we lived almost one and half year together when i go for hearing she prepare tiffine for me . this is again a big joke

498_final stage (Professional)     31 May 2013

A real joke. Why do you feel her father's death is your win??? My father died after she flied 498a within 2 months. Does that mean that b*tch won?

You are a real funny man. But ya your case is even stronger as she agreed to come back to you that means she was never tortured.

So you should be able to live with 498a label along with your beautiful witch. Congrats.

Divya (nil)     31 May 2013

Hi Aneesh, most of d lawyers, will never suggest for any counter filing of cases...Believe me inside everything is managed, we dont come to know...Very few ethical lawyers will ask u to guide back...

 

Thr r multiple options for filing a counter case..u r still going thru 498A...Hence a few suggestions

1. Take active intrst in ech point of FIR/Complaint what ur wife has filed...There will be some errors in it..try to get there strong either urself or with ur lawyer.

2. if thr r false points, u can equally go for discharge applctn before crmnl court for cancelling 498a & other charges put on u...

3. if there r false statements u can file a perjury application under Criminal Procedure Code...Any false statement or false case before the court is a serious wrong & if the court wants they will punish those people but we needto proce who has written what false.

4. Try to put the character of the female & investigate her present & past background of her boyfriends & u may bring the facts before court..

 

5. If for any reason u & ur family were made to marry the girl on some false pretexts/hidden facts; u can file a counter complaint under Cheating (420) & breach of trust (406)

 

6. u can file damages claim in money or defamation criminal matter if u can prove that fir is false or manipulated with wrong facts.

7. try to find was ur wife earlier married, has she divorced the earlier guy...

8. also compare the statements of ur wife and the statements of witnesses in FIR.. IF there are differences, again it shows that FIR is manipulated.

 

9. has ur wife been cross-exmanined before the court by ur lawyer....She may say/depose something wrong before the court & the FIR may state something else...All these things help...

 

 

Lastly, vicitms like us need to study law for our own & our family's benefit as these girls will misuse the laws....There is nothing that can stop us from proving facts but still keep fingers crossed.

 

Hope i cud assist u.

498_final stage (Professional)     31 May 2013

And do not forget to mention.. These False 498a women are known as LEGALISED PROSTITUTES

ANEESH TRIVEDI (ADVOCATE) (Advocate)     01 June 2013

Originally posted by : Divya


Thr r multiple options for filing a counter case..u r still going thru 498A...Hence a few suggestions

i need those option for counter case as soon 498A may get finished here in my case ADSP and SP gave a letter that IO filed case under malified intention and collector gave letter to DPO to study and withdraw the case.

1. Take active intrst in ech point of FIR/Complaint what ur wife has filed...There will be some errors in it..try to get there strong either urself or with ur lawyer.

yes, we gone thorugh it and collect all such points.

  
2. if thr r false points, u can equally go for discharge applctn before crmnl court for cancelling 498a & other charges put on u...
case is on discharge no charges frame till now..
3. if there r false statements u can file a perjury application under Criminal Procedure Code...Any false statement or false case before the court is a serious wrong & if the court wants they will punish those people but we needto proce who has written what false.

i dont have any idea about perjury, here why court wants they will punish, why it is not compulsory already they are try to ruin ones life so they must be punish.

4. Try to put the character of the female & investigate her present & past background of her boyfriends & u may bring the facts before court..
she is not of that kind only she use abusive language and hard word and handpack to her mother. by words she told such adultry things but in real she is much away from that but your this point is highly welcome as she is living away for so long time so nothing is impossible.
 
5. If for any reason u & ur family were made to marry the girl on some false pretexts/hidden facts; u can file a counter complaint under Cheating (420) & breach of trust (406)

her fahter hide their gotra this was only the fact but it is verbal not hidden.

6. u can file damages claim in money or defamation criminal matter if u can prove that fir is false or manipulated with wrong facts.

this is possible only after aquittal or discharge of 498A

7. try to find was ur wife earlier married, has she divorced the earlier guy... NO this is not a case

8. also compare the statements of ur wife and the statements of witnesses in FIR.. IF there are differences, again it shows that FIR is manipulated.

no witness from her side father was there he passes away, mother is there her statement order suspicious in sec09 by DJ, neighbour gave in my favor, her so called brother is only false one and rest left is IO who is again suspicious under SP and AD SP report.

9. has ur wife been cross-exmanined before the court by ur lawyer....She may say/depose something wrong before the court & the FIR may state something else...All these things help...
yes this may happen in future but we trying to discharge or withdrawal of case. befor crass examination

Lastly, vicitms like us need to study law for our own & our family's benefit as these girls will misuse the laws....There is nothing that can stop us from proving facts but still keep fingers crossed.

here i only the victim no family member involve in it.
Hope i cud assist u.

you guide me very well i am heartily thankful to you. i still request if you can lighten some more points or facts please help me in this way, thanking you .

 

@498a_Victim

sir it is not joke only thinking, if the father is main key who did wrong and who is the only one key point for all doing from their side he died then this is a win just like " SENAPATI of opponent died then what will the rest army will do" in that context i told that he was troubling man.he finishes so indirectly it is some sort of win means i have to face some less problems.

your father died if becaue of her then definitely she thinks she won mind here she think only if battle is on then if small cup of y our house brake then other will think it is their win it is not funny it is just psychological satisfaction if you are human then only can feel or undersatand, you are saying or not but if you realize by heart then some where this may be reason of your father tension.

yes case become strong as she come but now the situation is different and she left now so i have not live with her, sir some time if you are alon and not experienced then such mistakes happens so dont laugh /critic over others , it was y ou imagination for me that "you should be able to live with 498a label along with your beautiful witch. Congrats." but what was situation at that time you dont know , it may be possible if your wife came back befor you father death then he may still be alive and happy now and may be enjoying with grand children , so never thought negative always , give some scope very little margin for ultimate happening which is not in our hand, had you ever wish 498A for you at the time of marriage similary when situation get reversed you never no, anyway after her coming her case become weak and in society i proved my self that i was not desrves her allegations and i was clean .

actuallys she allegate me like terrorist,deshdrohi, i am going to sell her in night, i make her p*rn CD of her, i am keeping an eye on her sisters, i will kill her any time, i dont take proper care of her ,etc etc so her came back washed all such in society not in court,

sorry to you if my any word hurt you, your suggestions are always welcomes , i always need your assistance thanking you for your kind favour to me please keep it in future also

ANEESH TRIVEDI (ADVOCATE) (Advocate)     01 June 2013

Yes i agree with 498A_victim fully that

498A girls /woman's are

legalized prostitute,never take them back

498_final stage (Professional)     01 June 2013

hr r multiple options for filing a counter case..u r still going thru 498A...Hence a few suggestions

i need those option for counter case as soon 498A may get finished here in my case ADSP and SP gave a letter that IO filed case under malified intention and collector gave letter to DPO to study and withdraw the case.

 

You can file defamation and many other cases. See this for details - https://www.498a.org/contents/general/Counter%20Charge%20498a.pdf

1. Take active intrst in ech point of FIR/Complaint what ur wife has filed...There will be some errors in it..try to get there strong either urself or with ur lawyer.

yes, we gone thorugh it and collect all such points.

  
2. if thr r false points, u can equally go for discharge applctn before crmnl court for cancelling 498a & other charges put on u...
case is on discharge no charges frame till now..
3. if there r false statements u can file a perjury application under Criminal Procedure Code...Any false statement or false case before the court is a serious wrong & if the court wants they will punish those people but we needto proce who has written what false.

i dont have any idea about perjury, here why court wants they will punish, why it is not compulsory already they are try to ruin ones life so they must be punish.

4. Try to put the character of the female & investigate her present & past background of her boyfriends & u may bring the facts before court..
she is not of that kind only she use abusive language and hard word and handpack to her mother. by words she told such adultry things but in real she is much away from that but your this point is highly welcome as she is living away for so long time so nothing is impossible.

 

In my case she started using abusive language sooner after marriage. Maa/bhan etc which were recorded. She has been living alone from about 8 years in Delhi NCR as she did not have her own house. 
5. If for any reason u & ur family were made to marry the girl on some false pretexts/hidden facts; u can file a counter complaint under Cheating (420) & breach of trust (406)

her fahter hide their gotra this was only the fact but it is verbal not hidden.

 

She told us that her father left her mother and married to a different woman. Now we found her father in Kanpur finally and it looks like he is going to unite with his first wife (Girl’s mother) in anticipation of earning extorted money. Things were hided like - She didn’t tell us that her Muasee left her husband, and her mama left his wife. We came to know after marriage which was a bit shocking.

 

6. u can file damages claim in money or defamation criminal matter if u can prove that fir is false or manipulated with wrong facts.

this is possible only after aquittal or discharge of 498a

Yes Agreed.

7. try to find was ur wife earlier married, has she divorced the earlier guy...
 NO this is not a case

 

I am yet to investigate that. Moreover, she seems to have some psychological disorders. Split Personality.

8. also compare the statements of ur wife and the statements of witnesses in FIR.. IF there are differences, again it shows that FIR is manipulated.

no witness from her side father was there he passes away, mother is there her statement order suspicious in sec09 by DJ, neighbor gave in my favor, her so called brother is only false one and rest left is IO who is again suspicious under SP and AD SP report.

 

Her statements are not logical in my case. She is framing charges of torture over weekends and after office. However, she was regular in her job. No medical is submitted.

 

Unnecessarily involving my elder sister who was living in her own house. They did not even know my sister’s address and used the same address as of mine.

 

Replicated the 498a story in DV and added some points like gave xx things to her daughter to provide more grounding to the cases



9. has ur wife been cross-exmanined before the court by ur lawyer....She may say/depose something wrong before the court & the FIR may state something else...All these things help...
yes this may happen in future but we trying to discharge or withdrawal of case. befor crass examination

 

She was only examined by the police where she surprisingly say that she still want to live with me but she has problem with my parents who are 60+.

Lastly, vicitms like us need to study law for our own & our family's benefit as these girls will misuse the laws....There is nothing that can stop us from proving facts but still keep fingers crossed.

here i only the victim no family member involve in it.
Hope i cud assist u.

you guide me very well i am heartily thankful to you. i still request if you can lighten some more points or facts please help me in this way, thanking you .

 

I also wanted to thank all the experts here

 

 

Divya (nil)     01 June 2013

Hi, Each matter differs in terms of facts..

The 1st important step what i will advise is check each of her words & her statement in FIR..Arrange those facts put by her in the form of dates....See what she is hiding & what can be proved wrong...U will definitely find things what are absurd...

 

For Eg:- in my case, girl said husband kicked her, so she was forced for abortion..>Whereas her own family doctor, gives in writing to her that she suffered blighted ovum which is a natural disorder sort....

 

U will find something in ur own FIR to start with, dont depend on lawyers to guide u ...Have u sent earlier any letters to police before or after her filing of FIR ...Accumulate all ur side of evidences....If un still need any help, i am always ready...Lastly only people who r victims can help u as they can understand everything better as all girls' allege same kind of facts...U need to catchold of 3-4 strong points which can tableturn ur entire story before court.

ANEESH TRIVEDI (ADVOCATE) (Advocate)     01 June 2013

Originally posted by : 498a_Victim


You can file defamation and many other cases. See this for details - https://www.498a.org/contents/general/Counter%20Charge%20498a.pdf

yes read all here and by section wise i wrote all the facts and given to adovcate he told wait for decision of 498A ,

Any false statement or false case before the court is a serious wrong & if the court wants they will punish those people but we needto proce who has written what false.
ok but the false case and false statement is depends on the decision of 498A

In my case she started using abusive language sooner after marriage. Maa/bhan etc which were recorded. She has been living alone from about 8 years in Delhi NCR as she did not have her own house. 

in this situation we cant do anything if we say any single harsh simple word to her then it will be come under cruielty agains her.

She told us that her father left her mother and married to a different woman. Now we found her father in Kanpur finally and it looks like he is going to unite with his first wife (Girl’s mother) in anticipation of earning extorted money. Things were hided like - She didn’t tell us that her Muasee left her husband, and her mama left his wife. We came to know after marriage which was a bit shocking.

ok somewhat i also had same facts

like her mausi died by burning and FIL filed cases against them.

her elder sister { tauji fathers elders daughter} married to man who was 20 years older than her and divorcee or left her wife some people say murder his wife he trap her sister she says.
her another  mausi son married by kidnaaping that girl etc etc

6. u can file damages claim in money or defamation criminal matter if u can prove that fir is false or manipulated with wrong facts.

yes but it depends on decision of 498A , it is proved but we cant do anything before decision of 498A if any other option or rule is there then please tell we proceed on that just now i mean from monday onwards/

I am yet to investigate that. Moreover, she seems to have some psychological disorders. Split Personality.
i also feel only that my wife having personlity disorder problem and pshchlogical treatment she need but no medical proof of it. how can we prove? can we ask to court for her examination.
8. also compare the statements of ur wife and the statements of witnesses in FIR.. IF there are differences, again it shows that FIR is manipulated.
yes FIR is manipulate , since no big difference in statements as all there is no allegation on vague allegation but important point is at the time of fir i was 700KM away from the incident place and IO dont know this thing thats why SP and ADSP gave their report i had mention earlier.

Her statements are not logical in my case. She is framing charges of torture over weekends and after office. However, she was regular in her job. No medical is submitted.

 Exactly same in mine also, but her torture over weekends is not she mention in my case she mention it daily i beat and scold her after 8"o clock and it was my routine from the second day of marriage, and next day she is going to teach in college and nothing saying to her colegue and principal about happening and it continues for three months,

so in sec 09 order judge says how it is expected from a educated lady she had been torutred for long time and she keep mum? so her allegation is completely false.


Replicated the 498a story in DV and added some points like gave xx things to her daughter to provide more grounding to the cases

IN my case on 498A is there , i put RCR which i won in which she applied for sec24 that also i won.

She was only examined by the police where she surprisingly say that she still want to live with me but she has problem with my parents who are 60+.
no ne examined her in sec 09 she says only to judge that she dont want to live with me but before the decision / order of sec09 she came to me without informing police and court , 8 months before she left me under police custody by giving nonchargeble FIR

important: in my case i applied for discharge and no judge is daring to either discharge or go for charge or dismiss discharge petition of mine they are taking time as charge sheet was submitter in oct 2009. we are seeing the face of judge as if we pressurise then they will give at random order which may be aginst so here we are keeping aur patience, if any alternative ways are there please guide 

thanks to 498A_victim and Divya.

also seek attention from Helping Hand

Harsh (Manager)     01 June 2013

@all

filing counter case or teaching them a lesson 'legally' is a loooong road and least travelled by any fighter so far. most advocates discourage from even thinking of filing (including your own defence lawyer) simply because they are always aiming at a 'settlement'  option. OR they dont want to fight FOR the husband AGAINST the wife.

Perjury, malicious case etc. all this can certainly be filed but AFTER the original case is decided. The original case  itself takes 3-4 years, so post that if you want to pursue a counter case, you need to spend additional 2-3 years.

unless the ld. magistrate takes cognizance of the offense  in the same trial and directs the court to prosecute them for perjury etc. , it is still the victim's responsibility to bring the culprits to the books.

state doesnt recognize this as a crime on its own.

pathetic, but fact.

498_final stage (Professional)     01 June 2013

Hi Harsh,

Thanks for your insights. Lawyers are certainly after settlement. I also agree with the duration. But lets not forget if people like you and me would not have raised voice against these biased and business oriented laws then you and me would have been in jail and perhaps would not have thought of contesting the case.

So by fighting for justice you are fighting for the truth and not just for yourself.

We owe something to the society for sure with a simple sense that if today your voice is resonating with mine it is only and only human values which we are born with and still have not forgotten it.

Now if I see the practicality, what I understand is all the cases are independent. You can fight 498a till 10 years and get divorce within 2 years and then settle again. Dont forget your mother is also a woman, so there are good woman too. its just that we were unlucky or were too sweet to chewed as a sweet.

You can go to your 498a hearing with your kids from your next wife :)

 

 

 

 


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