DIRECTORY OF EXPERTS/ PRACTITIONERS
Guest
(Querist) 22 July 2011
This query is : Resolved
Hi Respected Experts
I am preparing a directory of expert Lawyers/Practitioners, which I intend to place at the LCI for free access, so that even our members may like to contact each other at the time of need to exchange views and get proper advice from each other, or to exchange neighbourhood cases amongst each other belonging to the jurisdiction nearest to one and other.
So, I am attaching a form to be filled in and sent to me for compilation of the said direcory.
Hope members would like to cooperate.
R.Ramachandran
(Expert) 22 July 2011
I think what Mr. Dhingra is trying is to compile is a directory of experts in the LCI Forum and not evaluating anybody, much less any legal person.
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 22 July 2011
If you want to weight one kg of any material should you not have scale worthy enough to weigh this much weight.
This person is claiming himself as CEO of group of companies . Whether such companies are doing any work and whether registered with any public body.
prabhakar singh
(Expert) 22 July 2011
i do not see any thing controversial in proposed act.
prabhakar singh
(Expert) 22 July 2011
i do not see any thing controversial in proposed act.
Guest
(Querist) 22 July 2011
Dear "Your Advocate",
By your post you have exposed yourself by showing wrong interpretation of my post. Did I say anywhere that I shall evaluate the capability of any expert in the directory?
Needless to mention, the community members, who would consult the directory, themselves, would evaluate the legal persons by referring to the nature of contributions made by any listed member.
A K CHANDOK
(Expert) 23 July 2011
Dear Dhingra ji,I appreciate ur idea which being a good cause, must be agreed upon by all concerned. Our aim is to apprise each other with latest legal positions beside exchanging viewpoints and guiding all who require expert opinion.
Your effort may bring close all such persons .
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 23 July 2011
Mr Dhingra you are claiming to be CEO of group of companies , if there are real companies and regd with Govt please give details since their information must be available in public domain.
Guest
(Querist) 23 July 2011
Your Advocate,
By the way what is your interpretation about CEO by quoting relevant section of the relevant Act?
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 23 July 2011
If you are heading real companies and are its CEO than you should be proud to share that information with others.
If the companies are real its information must be there on public domain.
Devajyoti Barman
(Expert) 23 July 2011
I think the Profiles of the experts already contain the necessary information with the place of their practice.
I just wanted to know as where is the Directory to be placed/posted or used?
prabhakar singh
(Expert) 23 July 2011
I AM NOT CONVINCE WITH ANY OF THE OBJECTIONS AGITATED HERE EITHER BY Expert " YOUR ADVOCATE "OR BY HIS COUNTER PART,MAY BE AN AVATAR OF HIM,Expert " SKJ - ADVOCATE"
Guest
(Querist) 23 July 2011
Dear Devajyoti,
The directory, which I propose to compile is my voluntary offer for the service of the members of the LCI community and I have already mentioned in my post that the same would be placed at the LCI. However, for more clarification, I intend to place the same under the Menu "Files" at the LCI. The same however can be supplied through email to the individual experts, whose names would appear in the directory.
Even if members like I can post the directory under this very column after it is compiled, provided members can rely on me and try to cooperate, not like the two fellows, whose post you have already read. The anonymous person "Your Advocate" post is as a matter of revengefull attitude, as I gave comments on his unethical advice to some one to pay to the advocate who did not provide any service to him and according to him was trying to use blackmailing tactics to extract money. The other person seems to be his associate.
Members may also like to read my comments vs. his comments on the question on the following link, which I am compelled to give here due to his biased propaganda:
http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/laywer-harrasing-and-threatening-me-and-my-wife-trying-to-extract-money-un-nessary--210496.asp
Guest
(Querist) 23 July 2011
Prabhakar ji,
People who shy to give their names, identity and even a few of information through "ABOUT ME" can behave like this only. Even they evade to provide their interpretation on the term CEO. Before asking some one they should have understood that their own information should also have been quite sufficient to be relied upon them. I am sure, even for the proposed directory, none of them would come forward to give their true identity or even a bit of their own information.
Kirti Kar Tripathi
(Expert) 23 July 2011
I think this forum is is already contributing enough.
Guest
(Querist) 24 July 2011
Anonymoous persons like skj and 'your advocate' should not think that anybody is liable to report to them. Such persons don't enjoy ay right to ask any personal information from any one. They should first come forward with their complete information and then with your interpretation about CEO.
I am quite transparent to my clients and they know me very well and my ethical practices.
Guest
(Querist) 24 July 2011
SKJ, it seems even plain words are beyond your understanding. You may like to see my reply against your other post at the following link:
http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/laywer-harrasing-and-threatening-me-and-my-wife-trying-to-extract-money-un-nessary--210496.asp
However, the same is repeated here also, as follows:
"Really surprising, I wonder to find that you CANNOT EVEN DISTINGUISH between the simple terms "CONSULTANTS" and "COMPANIES". Besides, all these shortcomings (including those pointed out in my previosu message), still you claim to be a professional and expert! I have already asked you to indicate where I have used the word of "companies" in my profile?"
"Anybody can guess you have just wasted your academic years just to get an LLB Degree and even thereafter the whole of the period of your practice not to gain any professionalism or expertise."
"Alas, you try to pose yourself as a champion, but get yourself exposed time and again through your own posts as to where do you stand."
"By not coming forward with your true and complete identity, you clearly seem to be terribly afraid that every member of this community may know ground reality about you. IF NOT, come out openly to let us know what is your name and other particulars along with your photograph, and where you are located."
NOW COMING TO YOUR LAME EXCUSE IN THE GUISE OF ADVOCATES ACT, LCI is a community of professional/ experts and to give details about you in your profile cannot be a self publicity. If it is treated as a publicity, you may please quote the relevant section of the Act, which provides you to remain anonymous and provide any advice anonymously to the community members?
Also, doesn't an advocate mention his name, contact particulars on the signboard fixed at the doorstep of his house or office? Is that not a publicity, if revealing your identity is a publicity?
So, I once again reiterate, IF YOU ARE NOT AFRAID OF that the member of this community may not know ground reality about you, come out openly to let us know what is your name and other particulars along with your photograph, and where you are located.
Guest
(Querist) 24 July 2011
SKJ, with every of your own post you expose yourself. You just try to harp the same tune every time without reading my replies.
Your present post made it very clear that you don't know any difference between "CONSULTANTS" and Companies.
You have also not indicated in which part of my profile I have mentioned the word "Companies" against my particulars.
You have also not come forward with your interpretation about the term CEO quoting rlevant section of relevant Act in support of your interpretation.
You have also not quoted the relevant section of the Advocates Act, which debars you to show your identity and specifies that you should remain anonymous and provide any advice anonymously.
You are also afraid of revealing your identity, which is quite necessary for a person to know whom you ask for any information. Even this very fact you do not seem to know, while you claim yourself as a professional and expert, but want to remain under veil.
By keeping your identity hidden, it is not me, rather you seem to be proving yourself as a fake entity. If you don't intend to reveal your identity, you do not enjoy any right to ask any information from any one else also.
NOW ANOTHE QUESTION FOR YOU TO REPLY: do you think the very senior advocates than you, who have revealed their identity, are acting against the provisions of Advocates Act?
venkatesh Rao
(Expert) 24 July 2011
Dhingra ji,
I appreciate your zeal. Such contributions are welcome. LCI is already doing what you claim to do. Your post has been creating much ado about nothing. Pl. expose yourself to them and put an end to controversy. What is harm in disseminating the information?
Be whatever may, I am on your side.
Guest
(Querist) 25 July 2011
SKJ, you have been evading to reveal your own identity all the times and also have not yet replied to any of my questions. Anonymous or pseudonymous person have no right to ask any information from others. Maximum of my information is available on this site. FIRST INTRODUCE YOURSELF COMPLETELY AND THEN ASK.
Fake, fraud, or gimmics terms, which you have used, are applicable to only those persons who prefer to hide their identity and always refuse to reveal even on asking several time, like you, not me, who has even published my photograph along with my full name and lot of other information about me on this forum.
Guest
(Querist) 25 July 2011
Dear Venkatesh,
Thanks for your advice. But sorry to make it clear, the person who has raised the controversy, should first clear the controversy about himself. If he can approach ROC to find information about me, he can also search the same through other sources.
I think, you could better have advised the fellow, who tried to make a mountain out of the mole and altogether hidden his identity, instead of me where my maximum information is available on this site. However, if you desire any information from me for any known purpose, you can ask me through email provided you also introduce yourself adequately to me, as your information under the heading "About me" is also wanting. Otherwise my complete information is available to my own clients for the last several decades. They are welcome to drag me any time in the court of law, if they feel I would have played a fraud with them or tried to make any gimmick.
Now, to be frank, I have realized that members of this community are not willing to accept my voluntary service for compilation of the directory of experts, which was aimed at the benefit of all the members of the LCI community, rather most of them seem to have been misled by the controversy raised by some anonymous persons. Of course, very sorry for making my offer and have to drop the idea, as they might be thinking as if I have made an offer for my own benefit.
H. S. Thukral
(Expert) 25 July 2011
Mr. Dhingra
LCI administration is taking care to post information necessary for profession. Even the lawyers are listed with their specialization. Nevertheless I appreciate your ideas. Let us put end to this discussion.
Guest
(Querist) 26 July 2011
Dear Harbhajan,
I appreciate your views. The end of discussion is always at the discretion of the starter of discussion or who raised controversy on any issue out of discussion. So far my part is concerned, my discussion was on the issue relating to compilation of the directory of experts, which has already ended on my part with my declaration in my previous post to abandon the idea of preparation of any such Directory, as the idea gathered only negative response on the part of a few negative minded members. Naturally, why should I waste my energy and time when people don't like even my voluntary and free service to the community?
I hope you would like to agree with my views.
H. S. Thukral
(Expert) 26 July 2011
Mr. SKJ -Advocate
How does it matter if Mr. Dhingra discloses or not the information you are after? We should see what valuable he is or he can contribute to the cause. There are so many others experts with anonymous names even 'your advocate' and 'SKJ- Advocate' does not suggest anything.
H. S. Thukral
(Expert) 26 July 2011
But we are not holding his trial.
I have gone through the whole discussion, the present one as well as the earlier one mentioned by Mt. Dhingra. Mr. Dhingra has behaved very well given in the provocation. he might have started this thread in over enthusiasm but nevertheless he has shown his etiquette and mannerism in whole discussion.
May I request you to stop it now.
Guest
(Querist) 27 July 2011
Dear Harbhajan,
You must have observed, SKJ tried to make a mountain out of a mole, while he cannot read properly even simple and brief sentences.
He reads "consultants" as "companies." He reads "Professional misbehaviour" as "police action." He does not know even the definition of a CEO. Still he claims to be an expert. I did not have any objection to clarify his points had he behaved sensibly.
So I decided to further check the extent of his expertise he claims just to know whether he can identify the groups also or not so that he may get more exposed before the members of LCI, when I have already given a sufficient information about me in my profile.
SO, IN NUTSHELL, HE PROVED TO HAVE UTTERLY FAILED ON ALL THE ASPECTS OF HIS SELF RAISED ISSUES TO SHOW ANY SORT OF EXPERTISE ON HIS PART.
Since I myself felt that people may think exaggeration about me and may also not be of much relevance here, if I give any more information about me. So, I have avoided to give more information about me, e.g., my being an Executive member of McKenzie Quarterly Magazine of the McKenzie Group of Management Consultants, an International entity, and also a Member of Aberdeen Group of Management Consultants, another International entity. I have also not made a mention of my association with the Harvard Business Review (Quarterly) of the Harvard University, and also my contributions to a few of other reputed sites. ALTHOUGH QUITE RELEVANT TO MENTION IN MY PROFILE, I HAVE EVEN AVOIDED TO MENTION THAT I AM AN AUTHOR OF 23 REFERENCE MANUALS, GUIDE BOOKS AND HELP BOOKS (INCLUDING GUIDE ON INCOME TAX) SINCE THE YEAR 1972. I have now discontinued writing books, as I am not able to bear with the rigour of managing of writing and updating of my books due to my old age. However, if he has any doubt about this, he can pay a visit to me and see the copies of my manuals and guide books himself, but with his written apology to me on his own letter head for all this ruckus created by him and his friend.
In fact he needs be advised properly that he should challenge any person only when he had some knowledge about him or really possess any expertise on the issues. On this thread I know he jumped only to help his friend, who seems to support unethical practices by professionals.
He should also learn how to behave with seniors, particularly the senior citizens. He must know that I am not contributing on this site and wasting my time for money or to get any publicity, but just to share my knowledge, which I have earned during last about half century of my active life. HE MUST ALSO NOTE IT SERIOUSLY THAT I AM ALSO NOT LIABLE TO BE INSULTED OR GET MY REPUTATION DAMAGED BY ANYONE WITHOUT ANY HARM DONE TO ANYBODY.
Guest
(Querist) 27 July 2011
SKJ, very good criteria of thinking, as if holding degree in law provides you license and entitles you to earn money in any manner even illegally and also to support unethical practice of professionals who indulge in professional misconduct.
UNFORTUNATELY, every time you expose yourself more and more.
Guest
(Querist) 27 July 2011
SKJ, I suppose you are bent upon exposing yourself to the maximum extent. The irony of fate is that on one hand you raise objection on a very small issue, even the legal definition of which you failed to provide, on the other you are now suggesting me to declare myself as an international expert.
When you treat my lesser detail as gimmick to impress people and even not have refrained yourself from calling me imposter, God knows to what extent you would make a mockery of me within the community, if I accept your proposal to mention myself as international expert?
SEEMINGLY, YOU DO NOT HAVE COMMAND EVEN ON YOUR LANGUAGE. YOU SHOULD AT LEAST TAKE CARE WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY SAID AND WHAT YOU WOULD BE GOING TO SAY LATER THAT MIGHT NOT CONTRADICT YOUR OWN STATEMENTS.
SO, THIS IS THE TYPE OF EXPERTISE YOU SEEM TO HOLD AND ARE TRYING TO EXHIBIT TO THIS COMMUNITY.
Guest
(Querist) 27 July 2011
Did I ask you to advise me or give any suggestion?
However, your post provides another example of bad interpretation when you say to use 'international expert' as a prefix. Probably you think the word "Advocate" added by you with SKJ is also a prefix.
In fact you try to tease me with your continued efforts, but you inadvertently reveal deficiency of your own knowledge and capabilities with each of your post, what to say of expertise.
Guest
(Querist) 09 August 2011
Dear Friends
I thank all the participants who made me clear my position and expose the fake identities of two gentlemen, who claim to be experts, but are afraid of revealing their true identity.
NOW you may like to see another development where the ex-YOUR ADVOCATE alias JSKN is now JSDN, having switched over to his 3rd fake identity within just a week's time. He changed his lable just two days back and is now posting his answers with his newly acquired fake identity of JSDN.
YOU CAN NOW WELL UNDERSTAND, WHO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO ACT AS IMPOSTERS AND FRAUDS, AS THEY ARE UNABLE TO JUSTIFY THEIR OWN POSITION OF BEING GENUINE EXPERTS.
Further, you may also like to review the position, if such fake identity holders would have tried to falsely jeopardise your own positions, I am sure you would also have definitely liked to defend your positions.
Similary, I have justifiedly tried to defend my position also. Any one, whosoever, like "YOUR ADVOCATE alias JSKN alias JSDN" or SKJ alias SKJADV-SARDAESENA," cannot digest my opinions or advice, they are quite free not to act upon any of my opinion/advice or even should desist to take my opinion/advice in future also. I am contented with the site administration and my friends (including some advocates/lawyers), who consider me as expert in some important matters.
Anyway, again my thanks to all the participants who tried to bear with me.
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 09 August 2011
But which is your group where you are CEO AND ARE YOU READY TO FACE ANY LEGAL FORUM for what all you say.
Guest
(Querist) 11 August 2011
Your Advocate, alias JSKN, alias JSDN,
I knew you would not be able to resist yourself and would appear some day to expose more of yourself. Do you think LCI is not a legal forum where my replies appear?
Do you think, the administration of LCI was wrong to register me as an expert and was right only when they registered you as an expert?
Of course, you would first need to know the meaning of definitions of expert, group and forum. I know some one, may be you or some one else, has recently posted a query at the LCI, as an anonymous person, to know the definition of expert, as at the following link:
http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Definition-of-expert-218741.asp
The question arises, what was the need to hide the identity in posting that question when that question was just to enhance the academic knowledge of the poster of the question and when the query did not represent any personal problem of confidential nature?
BUT, you must understand, when you fail to reply even a single query from me, you are unable to give legal definition of CEO, you interpret the terms wrongly, you do not know the meaning of simple terms like "anonymous," you declare not only me but also Mr. Ramachandran, as anonymous when both of us come with our real names with every post, while you yourself do not come forward with your real name, you are not ready to reveal your real identity and continue to change even your fake identity very frequesntly, the question arises, would you dare to come forward with your real identity at any such forum? I can understand that your present post can be like a disgruntled and irritated person, who is not able to find solution to the problem created by himself by getting himself exposed every time by himself only.
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 11 August 2011
Instead of posting long long and long inputs pl first tell what is your group where you are CEO.
Guest
(Querist) 11 August 2011
Your Advocate, alias JSKN, alias JSDN,
Instead of stretching the thread very very long, why don't you show courage enough to reveal your real identity and why you are trying to switch over frequently from one fake identity to another, and why you are avoiding to reply my questions?
However, by posting your fresh query "tell us what is your group," you have yourself proved beyond doubt that as an expert you are not able to read even a very small text properly. You try to read just between the lines, which is quite harmful at least for the career of a practising lawyer, if you really are. The name of my group is clearly indicated along side my name. If you are not able to read any text properly that is not my fault.
