Improving the quality of this site
R.Ramachandran
(Querist) 06 October 2011
This query is : Resolved
Dear All,
Increasingly, I find that we are answering trivial questions, that too in expert area!
In addition, we also try to answer to many of the queries based on our own assumptions and presumptions when the query lacks in material particulars; and then we find ourselves out witted by the querist by springing new facts.
If we have to avoid such situations and also simultaneously
(i) improve the quality of this site; and
(ii) discourage people from putting questions without revealing complete facts
then
(a) consistently and invariably first we should try to elicit as much as information as required before attempting to give any answer.
(b) Further more, we should consistently stop answering the queries from "Anonymous".
(c) We should avoid answering patently academic queries and
(d) queries from Commercial queries - like queries from commercial companies; Firms, or business propositions etc.
(e) Whenever anyone opens a fresh thread on the same topic/subject/query, we should direct the querist to get back to his original thread.
In addition, I have decided that:
I will touch upon a query only where I can make value addition to the query already answered by any of the Expert; or where I have a difference of opinion.
I shall be glad to receive the feedback from other Experts.
Arun Kumar Bhagat
(Expert) 06 October 2011
Your suggestions are to some extent appreciable. Regarding queries with complete details sometimes become so irrelevant and so lengthy that I do sometime avoid attending the same.You can not check Anonymous option as the querist sometimes need to hide his identity due to some genuine and compelling reasons.
prabhakar singh
(Expert) 06 October 2011
I SECOND THIS PROPOSAL WILL FULLY AND WISH
OTHERS VOTE IT.
ajay sethi
(Expert) 06 October 2011
i agree biggest problem is queries lacking in material particulars . our answers are som etimes based on certian assumptions and presumptions .
but problem is we cant impose our views on other experts .
the detailed guidelines have to be laid down by administrators of site .
as far as commercial queries are concerned i have also stopped replying to them and have follwed the example laid down by you and Mr prabhakar singh .
ulitmately decision has to be collective one . hope other experts agree .
kuldeep kumar
(Expert) 06 October 2011
increasing quality of expert area should be the title of this query.this site is made for many purposes but expert area is made for one specific purpose i.e to solve actual problems people facing.anonymous facility should be removed fro expert area and continued in forum.
Advocate. Arunagiri
(Expert) 06 October 2011
I fully endorse the views of Mr.R.R.
Many of the queriest are not interested in disclosing necessary info.
Some of them are asking just for academic sake.
Few of them are contacting over phone for clarification. I used to tell them only in case of emergency you can seek telephonic help. But, they never hear my words and used to continue over phone. I dont have the habbit of disconnecting the phone calls.
Let the querist contact the experts to their email IDs instead of calling them over phone, that too during court hours.
Suggestion for the improvement:-
FAQ shall be created, so that the querist may come to the experts for additional clarification. This will avoid repeated queries.
Not to award marks for anonymous queries.
Creating a premium section. Let the querist pay and use the section. By this only needy person will use that section.
kuldeep kumar
(Expert) 06 October 2011
mr arunagiri i have not found a single query where u have finally killed the matter.i think some of the genuine mans are working good on this site like mr ram chandran.prabhakar singh,makkad.shonee kapoor.what i want to say honestly i do not like ur replies.i honestly speaking i do not read even sometimes.
kuldeep kumar
(Expert) 06 October 2011
i do not read ur view sometimes honestly speaking.
Raj Kumar Makkad
(Expert) 06 October 2011
Principally none can disagree with Ramchandran but problem arises in its implementation.
I have been telephoned by various querists who had raised their queries as anonymous. I asked them why they have not disclosed their names then they replied that they are lawyers active on this site and they feel complex raising their queries in their names so they hide their names. I was surprised to know.
One more thing we are facing. Some experts deliberately try to defame and even try to accuse each other and some deliberately remain praising some particular expert without any reason resulting a joking situation. You all know numerous of such incidents and there is no need to repeat here.
Various experts try to give replies to each and every query though they have leas knowledge about that field. Everyone cannot be expert of every field hence each one has limitation. Our life is within these limitations but deliberately intervening in each and every field of law is nothing but degrading the quality of this section.
We experts also are running behind the game to earn maximum points even if reply has already been given by some other expert and even querist is also satisfied with the reply. We keep on writing "I do agree.....". Admin might have introduced this point earning scheme at initial stage to attract maximum experts to devote their time but now there is no need of this point earning scheme and it should be stopped in the interest of this site otherwise quality shall degrade day by day.
I request Admin Parkash Shah to take part in this discussion and should put his version and should also frame a policy so that aim and objects of this site may be reviewed and a best policy may be evolved.
kuldeep kumar
(Expert) 06 October 2011
i fully incorporate views of mr makkad the one and only top ranking learned expert of this site and commands full support.he is in mood of retiring fro this site sothat young advocates may acclaim their prudence and flourish.thank mr makkad.
Guest
(Expert) 06 October 2011
i agree with the view of Mr. Makkad but here the problem is that when an advocate at this site asks about any query than he thinks about the inferior factor and thinks that is will make down his image for others that this queries/ advocate is not much experienced and it will be a negative point for his practice but here is different. i have also asked many queries and replied many queries so no one is e pert in any field. so i request to all the members of LCI to actively participate in asking there queries without any hesitations. this is my thinking. on emore think each and every expert tries to earn a point by writing that i agree with the reply of the experts but it is not true always as some time there is nothing to add or to give some new reply regarding that query.
prabhakar singh
(Expert) 06 October 2011
I PRAISE YOU Mr. Bishnoi. Only people who think in right direction can move to north direction.
mahendrakumar
(Expert) 07 October 2011
Yes,Mr.Ramachandran.some restraints in these direction is required.
especially,I agree/endorse type of expert comments,where there is no "value addition" at all.
Instead of the point system,let the querist give some grading or star marking for the answers,as he/she is the real judge,whether a satisfactory answer to his/her issues were received.
in the initial stages of this site,the point system may be introduced to attract maximum participation of experts from all field.
regarding the telephone enquiry,I blame only the concerned experts,because,there was no need to give their phone/mobile nos.in a public domain like this,unless personal publicity was desired. as such there is no point in lamenting now.
since the membership has reached around 1,35,991 as of now,the administrators of this site may consider some modification in these point system.
Sailesh Kumar Shah
(Expert) 07 October 2011
In addition to above, i would like to draw kind attention of all experts that sometimes author closed query by thanks etc. in spite of that some experts replied on the same topic, which have no meaning otherwise before query was wrong answered.
prabhakar singh
(Expert) 07 October 2011
I want to drive point home that anonymity is being opposed by us simply for one reason that often authors ask a query,get an answer,and then jump over to post the same facts a fresh but by improving them with help of earlier given answer,that create a problem
before experts as they become exposed to risk of a contradiction as human mind has an on going process of thinking and its thought emerges fold by fold.
Experts are not interested in knowing the personality of the author but they want to know by a name,if authors want to live by a fake name,experts have no concern as the purpose of experts would be solved if a name is there.Disclosing that mechanism will give another fishy way to authors hence that is being not stated here deliberately.
If a donor wants to remain anonymous it may be understood but why a donee want that is not easy to understand.YET THE OBJECTIVE IS NOT TO IDENTIFY THE AUTHOR BUT TO IDENTIFY HIS QUERY.
DEFENSE ADVOCATE.-firmaction@g
(Expert) 07 October 2011
Other imp aspect is that some quacks posing as experts and do respond on half backed knowledge just to remain on hall of fame.
People come with question due to their personal agony and lack of proper legal advice at their level.
It is cruel joke on them by these quacks.
Otherwise I feel querries even annonymous add depth to knowledge and as long as relevant no harm to attend to them.
Some friends had rightly pointed out at many threads that knowledge gets more depth by discussion and even by counter questions.
ajay sethi
(Expert) 07 October 2011
as on date we have 12 experts views .
for a start we can refrain from answering commercial queries.
i agree point system should be scrapped .
in addtion any expert defaming other experts should be reprimanded by the adminstartors of the site .
we would like the administrators to give their valued opinion on issues raied by MR ramchandran .
Guest
(Expert) 07 October 2011
here another system of star ranking can also be drafted for the valuation on the basis of the queries answered. it will be better for making the rank of the advocate as 1star, 2 star,3 star, 4, star, 5 star etc or some other system to clearly value the thinking of the experts.
Guest
(Expert) 11 October 2011
I am thankful to Shri Prabhakar ji on inviting my personal attention towards such an important issue raised by Shri Ramachandran, and express my personal opinion vide the thread at: http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/experts/Improving-the-quality-of-this-site-237266.asp
Of course, Shri Ramachandran's valuable contribution by starting this thread is remarkable and can add immense value to this site.
About Shri Ramachandran's suggestions, I principlly agree with his views, as well as those expressed by S/Shri Arun Kumar Bhagat, Ajay Sethi, Raj Kumar makkad, Arunagiri, Prabhakar Singh, and Sachdev Bishnoi, but with slight modification to some points, as follows:
About questions by anonymous authors, unless some basic facts of the case are given the questions can be avoided to be answered.
Callers on phone should be asked to come with detail through PM or email totally discouraging them to discuss on phone unless some very urgent life saving sort of matter is needed to be discussed.
Any person sending query received through PM or email without his personal particulars should be avoided to be answered and if the query is of some vital importance, the sender of the message be asked to send his personal particulars, if he would really need help. I am already adopting this practice and do not attend anonymously asked questions. The querist is clearly replied to first introduce himself properly if he really need my help to solve his problem.
Not awarding marks for anonymous queries can only dampen the spirit of cooperation by the experts, while baseless and hypothetical queries can well be ignored by the experts.
Premium section, as suggested by Shri Arunagiri, can be there but that should be in addition to the existing free section. Mere premium section would not fetch much queries and would only be to the disadvantage of the experts as they also gain additional knowledge on varied points of law through replies to several questions, which they may not be knowing earlier. Not only that avoidance of free section may also be to the disadvantage to the admn and membership would start falling down. There are other free legal sites also where the membership can divert from this site.
Makkad ji has rightly pointed out that some experts deliberately try to defame and even try to accuse each other and some deliberately remain praising some particular expert. The irony is that some of them neither reply to the question, not they point out any difference of view with the reply of the other expert, but just make a post merely to defame some particular expert.
So, I suggest introduction of double or triple of negative points to be imposed on such an expert, who merely appears on the thread just to defame some other expert without answering the question or showing any significant legal diference of opinion with the answer of any expert.
It has also been noticed that some posers try to mislead and misguide the querists with their fake identities, which they even change frequently to avoid their recognition. So, the admn may consider the need to reveal true identities of experts along with their addresses also at the pages of their profiles, so that the clients may avoid to hire such type of fake experts at the time of their need for services in real life scenario. In fact frequent complaints of the clients about such type of unethical advocates become the cause of defamation to the whole of the advocates community that include ethical and honest lawyers also.
Hope experts would like to agree with me on the aforesaid points.
prabhakar singh
(Expert) 13 October 2011
In principle there is nothing in view of Dhingra ji that may cause me to dis agree.
