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(Querist) 15 September 2013 This query is : Resolved 
if s student completed two degree simultaneously before the decision for two degrees then can both degrees considered or not..?
Isaac Gabriel (Expert) 15 September 2013
Both are valid.
Dr. Jyothi Vishwanath (Expert) 15 September 2013
Both valid.
ajay sethi (Expert) 15 September 2013
academic query
surinder (Querist) 15 September 2013
more clarification is that two degrees are BA & BBA

BA completed in 2003 and BBA completed in 2004.

is it valid..?

if yes

can i do B.Ed now
Dr. Jyothi Vishwanath (Expert) 15 September 2013
You can do next degree.
NO problem in that.
BA and BBA will be valid provided one out of them is regular and one is correspondence course.
If both regular, it can be challenged by anyone interested.
R.K Nanda (Expert) 15 September 2013
u can do B.Ed.
surinder (Querist) 15 September 2013
yes BA is correspondence and BBA is regular.

thanks all for rply.
Dr. Jyothi Vishwanath (Expert) 15 September 2013
you are welcome...
Rajendra K Goyal (Expert) 16 September 2013
Well advised by the experts, nothing to add.
V R SHROFF (Expert) 16 September 2013
BOTH VALID DEGREES AND CAN PROCEED FURTHER
surinder (Querist) 16 September 2013
but i make a call to university. and they told me that this is not valid. i'm confused a bit.....can any one plz explain more in detail about this topic...
R.K Nanda (Expert) 16 September 2013
better contact concerned university.
surinder (Querist) 16 September 2013
now a days UGC Approved that a student can appear in two degrees courses simultaneously . can i get some edge on the basis of that..?

is there any penalty i have to face..? if yes what would be that penalty according ot you..?
Dr. Jyothi Vishwanath (Expert) 17 September 2013
You dont have any problem at all. Which university said that the degee is not valid. The university which awarded the degree or some other university.
You dont have to ask any question relating to
your degrees to the university.
Both degrees are valid and there is no penalty at all.
surinder (Querist) 17 September 2013
today i met a suppt and clerk. supt told me that no problem and clerk told me when the any uni. comes to know abt this then uni. take decision and cancel degree. and it would be treated as fraud and job would also be in danger..now i feel guilty with unknown fault..
Dr. Jyothi Vishwanath (Expert) 17 September 2013
Dont be afraid by the words of a clerk.
One thing for sure. If one degree is correspondence and another regular, it does not affect the validity of both the degrees.
Again, i think the exams for both were on different dates.
So be confident. Even if you are appointed on the basis of these two degrees, be cool. If anyone challenges, let them prove their case.
surinder (Querist) 17 September 2013
ok dr. jyoti. yes exam dates were different and there is also a gap between registration of both the universities .
surinder (Querist) 18 September 2013
thanks everyone who rply..i'm going to make my last decision to quit B.ed to save my job. This is unknowingly mistake done . i was very much happy when i get admission and now very much sad with the system.....
Dr. Jyothi Vishwanath (Expert) 18 September 2013
Dont quit B.ED seat. Finish that first. Later you worry about other aspects.
There is no problem at all in your case.
Rajendra K Goyal (Expert) 19 September 2013
Agree with the advise of Expert Dr. Jyothi Vishwanath ji, You should try to complete your B Ed.
surinder (Querist) 19 September 2013
i agree that i can do B.ed. but the main point is if i do Bed with BA subjects then i cannot share it with other degree . now i want only one thing to prove my self innocent to university. i want to tell the whole story to UNIVERSITIES. If i did so can any UNIVERSITY help me ,because everything done unknowingly . Can i find honest way to be innocent.
Sarvesh Kumar Sharma Advocate (Expert) 19 September 2013
what ever is permitted is not prohibited !
see is institution permits you?
surinder (Querist) 19 September 2013
everything is ok.permission from department is also ok. admission is also confirmed.
surinder (Querist) 19 September 2013
Plea against TRB order dismissed
CHENNAI, April 4, 2013

“At least in luncheons or dinners, some discipline is followed with guests taking the starters first, along with juice/soup, then proceeding to the main course, before winding up with dessert. No one takes them in the reverse order. But today, in the field of education, a person can take any course in any discipline in any order they like.”

This is what Justice V. Ramasubramanian of the Madras High Court observed on Tuesday while upholding a Teachers Recruitment Board (TRB)’s order declaring a candidate, who had obtained two degrees during the same academic year, as ineligible for appointment as a P.G. Assistant in English.

The petitioner sought a direction to the authorities to appoint her to the post for 2012.

“Quality and excellence become causalities”

The Judge observed, “Universities not only permit them (students) to undergo courses of different nature in different disciplines, but also permit students to undergo these courses in different order. They also permit them to ride two horses at the same time. Consequently, quality and excellence become casualties.”

S. Jagadeeswari was a graduate in Physics and completed M.A in English in 2003. Later, she completed B.A. in English Literature and B.Ed simultaneously. One was pursued by regular mode and the other through distance education.

According to TRB, the validity of two degrees obtained simultaneously from the same or different universities was referred to the Madras University.

Ineligible for appointment

By a letter dated January 2, 2011, the university appeared to have informed the board that candidates who had obtained degree in a subject and a B.Ed degree in the same year, by undergoing one of them through the open university and the other through the regular stream, had not been recognised so far. Therefore, the TRB considered the petitioner ineligible for appointment.

Mr. Justice Ramasubramanian said the authorities stand was not faulty. At every stage, there had been a wild goose chase for the executive and the judiciary to curtail shortcuts invented by candidates for securing employment.

Shortcuts curtailed

The first shortcut — studying PG degrees in different subjects other than the one undergone in the degree course — was curtailed by a G.O. in December 1999. The second one of acquiring PG degrees even without schooling was curtailed by a court decision followed by a G.O. in August 2009.

“Now, this is the next category of cases where persons seek to acquire two different degrees during the same academic year, for the purpose of overcoming the mischief sought to be undone by the aforesaid Government Orders and judgments.”

This had fortunately been nipped in the bud by the TRB by taking a stand even at the threshold that degrees obtained in the same academic year would not be recognised.

The authorities’ stand not to accept the candidature of persons who had undergone two different degree courses simultaneously was perfectly in order, the Judge said, and dismissed the writ petition.

“A candidate who obtained two degrees in the same year is ineligible for appointment”

link is :-

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/plea-against-trb-order-dismissed/article4579709.ece

Isaac Gabriel (Expert) 19 September 2013
Surinder!

You have pertinent answer your own query.Neverthless it is an eyeopener to the experts participated in finding answer.
surinder (Querist) 22 September 2013
everyone i need your last comment..plzzz
surinder (Querist) 04 October 2013
today i visit university and uni. not gave me proper information..i got gol mol answer from them.


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